September 2001



Nicholas, my comment my have seem uncalled for & I probably should have explained why I feel this way hopefully it is not too late to explain. I have been to a wake and a memorial already & we have one more next week, there was a tremendous turnout at both & at one of them my friend said to me who are all these people & why are they here. They don't know me or the deceased. She was very angry & it may have had to do with her own grief I do not know. I do know she felt like strangers were being nosey & showing up just for the heck of it. I apologize if I hurt anyone's feelings.
Grieving
USA - Sunday, September 30, 2001 at 16:45:45 (PDT)

Grieving, I do wish to extend my condolences but your criticism of C78 is completely uncalled for.
Nicholas
Parris Island, SC USA - Sunday, September 30, 2001 at 14:41:34 (PDT)

To Grieving: My condolences on your loss, and to anyone else on this site who is also grieving.
c78
USA - Sunday, September 30, 2001 at 14:02:00 (PDT)

C78, thanks for reminding people that we can still help others, that there is still a great need for love and support at this time. The relief agencies still need cash donations, and the Red Cross would like people to make appointments to give blood in October. The blood they collected in the wake of the tragedy will only last a few weeks. We can also stand together and try not to let petty grievances get to us. We are all mourning this attack in our own way.
Nosy Parker
USA - Sunday, September 30, 2001 at 13:51:41 (PDT)

C78, I recall a previous post of yours urging us to go to these funerals. We get it, it seems like you just want us to know that you went. Good for you. Many of us are busy going to memorials & funerals of people we knew & can't bear to attend any more.
grieving
USA - Sunday, September 30, 2001 at 12:11:39 (PDT)

I DO HONDO
FOIL
USA - Sunday, September 30, 2001 at 06:10:57 (PDT)

Mont - No I haven't, but I will. Bought my first Tom Waits cd couple days ago. I will buy more!!
Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 29, 2001 at 17:37:54 (PDT)

PIMPIN' ISN'T EASY
HUGGY BEAR
USA - Saturday, September 29, 2001 at 17:06:17 (PDT)

Hey Sez - Have you ever checked out MUSICRADIO77.COM? If not, check it out: Surveys from every week and loads of airchecks and jingles from WABC and WMCA! If you have checked it out please disregard this message!
T P F K a The Mont
USA - Saturday, September 29, 2001 at 17:04:52 (PDT)

HEY, WHO OUT THERE
MARTIN
WOODHAVEN , NY USA - Saturday, September 29, 2001 at 15:17:23 (PDT)

WHAT UP ..........
HONDO
USA - Saturday, September 29, 2001 at 15:16:17 (PDT)

WHO WANTS TO MEET AT SALS FOR A SLICE OR AT THE DOME FOR SOME DUST
HON DO
USA - Saturday, September 29, 2001 at 15:15:46 (PDT)

The FDNY has asked the public to attend firefighters' funerals, since they can't give the huge turnout they normally do. I went to one in Bayside today and I can say it was beautiful. The mayor got a nice round of applause, and all the firefighters who were there got a standing ovation as they marched out of the church. The NY papers are printing the locations of all area funerals. Please go, it you possibly can. It's the very least we can do.
c78
Queens, NY USA - Saturday, September 29, 2001 at 12:34:35 (PDT)

Tony Cerquira- Where are you? I remember you from also being friends with Walter K.,Rich Y. and Ken D.
Jim (was from) 76 St.
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 18:26:34 (PDT)

I saw them filming Zoolander at the MTV Fashion awards, they were having soo much fun. I can't wait to see it.
THE NEW ZOOLANDER REVIEW
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 18:06:08 (PDT)

Kimber, please watch what you say about Israeli's (BTW this is the proper spelling). Don't be rude!
Keeping everyone kosher
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 18:04:36 (PDT)

Kimber, please watch what you say about Israeli's (BTW this is the proper spelling). Don't be rude!
Keeping everyone kosher
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 18:04:34 (PDT)

See Zoolander! It is so silly and very funny. Tons of cameos by the famous and infamous. Curious, go check it out - especially if you like Vince Vaughn.
Tish
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 17:25:16 (PDT)

I see kimber has returned. Anyone hear from USA?
kimber fan
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 13:19:54 (PDT)

please, just answer the immediate question....
curious
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 13:19:38 (PDT)

Tony Cerquira - answering your call!!
Ken Sez
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 13:12:07 (PDT)

Mont - There's more truth to that than you know!
Ken Sez
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 13:00:26 (PDT)

anyone seen any good movies lately?
a bored curious
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 12:59:59 (PDT)

OK- the HELP I see on that page is on the bottom, middle. When you click on that it takes you to a page that has questions for someone ALREADY REGISTERED! Why am I not seeing the same page as you?
Nuttin' Honey
Classmates.com is a crock of poo poo, USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 11:18:44 (PDT)

When you go to classmates.com and you need assistance signing up, select HELP at the top right side of the page.
Good luck
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 11:09:30 (PDT)

GRADFINDER.COM not gradfinderS.com NO "S".
Does that help?
There are only a few dozen people there anyway, USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 11:05:13 (PDT)

Dome University?? Hilarious. I notice that no one "graduated" from this fine establishment.
Ha Ha Ha Ha
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 10:19:08 (PDT)

OK- when I pull up CLASSMATES.COM, on the home page there is NOWHERE to register!! Only a place to enter if you already are registered, or a place to go if you can not remember your password. Is this a conspiracy or what?
Still Nutz
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 10:09:07 (PDT)

"Something we have always done as a family is what we call "going for a spin." On a dark, rainy night, we take the old Caddy out on a stretch of treacherous, curving road and get it up to about ninety and slam on the brakes. The kids scream with glee because we always end up in a different place. It's better than the Cyclone or the Tilt-A-Whirl, and best of all, we do it as a family."
Tom Waits is cool
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 10:00:28 (PDT)

FROM THE DAILY NEWS: Ever since the World Trade Center disaster, federal and city officials have said there is minimal risk from the fetid, dust-filled air and smoke that continue to envelop Ground Zero. But independent tests of dust samples around the site have found dangerous levels of cancer-causing asbestos, fiberglass — and even residues of human bone particles.
How gross is that?
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 09:56:21 (PDT)

It is starting again. Reports of Americans beating, shooting and abusing other Americans. Reports of schoolchildren beating other children based on their appearance. Reports of widespread violence against Arab and Muslim-Americans. God bless America. It is starting again. Our president says "We will hunt these folks down", "I will lead the world toward victory", "We will wage a global war on terrorism" and "this will be a sustained war". Thousands more innocent lives will be lost, and towards what end? What purpose does our own fanaticism serve in resolving the horrific tragedy that happened on Tuesday, September 11? America trains foreigners to torture and kill civilians and overthrow governments, and we funded the Taliban to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. Our taxes went towards this. We paid for the shelter provided to the attacker and perhaps for the training of the attackers themselves. Perhaps we should examine our own system before killing other innocent people because they aren’t "like us". The seemingly never-ending cycle of violence has come round again. We stand now at a crossroads. We can continue on the path that leads towards death, hate, fear and tragic loss or we can finally change direction.
NOW WHAT DO WE DO?
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 09:42:19 (PDT)

curious: I guess we're pretty close in the "working for bitches" department! Oh well, it pays the bills (sometimes) for now.
kimber
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 09:30:04 (PDT)

Anti-Skell: I sent the e-mails to your hot mail address. I haven't gotten your e-mails either. I just resent one of the e-mails to you.
kimber
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 09:28:28 (PDT)

wow- sorry KIMBER, i mangled your name....
curious
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 09:27:14 (PDT)

kminer-- mine is a manic depressive beeach that needs to double up on the meds this weekend-- does that qualify as worse? anti- that's how i like my men, always up and waiting on me.... :oD~
curious
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 09:25:45 (PDT)

unconfirmed reports havs stated we have had 3-5 man teams---special ops, green berets,delta force, rangers, etc in the sandbox since 2 days after the wtc....
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 08:37:03 (PDT)

Told you all my name ain't "Jimbo ".....
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 08:34:52 (PDT)

Micksteroid...4 walls ??? stuck ??? lockdown ???
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 08:34:08 (PDT)

Gradfinder may be free because they are newer and smaller. As of a few minutes ago,my High School-Brooklyn Tech had 429 matches on Gradfinder ,but 10,419 matches on classmates. No,I'm not getting a kickback from them.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 08:32:57 (PDT)

curious...I am waiting...
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 08:27:19 (PDT)

Kimber---I didn't recieve your "E" mails....I did send you my addresses....
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 08:26:47 (PDT)

Mr. Jimbo - Classmates is an R.R.R. That's a Royal Running Ripoff. Ken Sez - Heard you tried to sign up for Classmates but were confused as to which of the 3 graduating classes you were a part of to enter!
T P F K a The Mont
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 07:01:50 (PDT)

Curious: Do you have the same boss as me?? Mine's an Isreali be-aach!!!!! Can't get much worse than that!
kimber
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 06:41:53 (PDT)

Mickster, my love! Here I am!! I am always here for you!
kimber
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 06:40:49 (PDT)

IT'S FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
curious
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 06:16:27 (PDT)

STUCK INSIDE THESE 4 WALLS.SENT INSIDE FOREVER.NEVER SEEING NO ONE,NICE AGAIN.LIKE YOU. WHERES ME KIMBER?
MICKSTER <ADMIRAL HALSEY@WINGS.COM>
USA - Friday, September 28, 2001 at 02:31:53 (PDT)

Better than classmates, and they don't ask for $ is Gradfinders.com Under the Woodhaven name, there are set ups for PS97, 60, St. Elizabeth, STA, and some wiseguy even posted a site for "Dome University." I think that you can get in contact with people there for free, as opposed to having to pay to join classmates. See you there!
KML85 <ny2nj@angelfire.com>
NJ USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 17:10:32 (PDT)

kimber---new e mail address...will send...
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 17:04:19 (PDT)

Curious....I have a job for you...I am up to the task...are you ???
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 17:03:30 (PDT)

T P F K A Mont - What about this Stan Rodgers guy??
Ken Sez
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 13:33:54 (PDT)

my boss was a major be-aach today and i hate this friggin' job. see ya in the morning. bye bye.
curious
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 13:29:00 (PDT)

Anyone here live in Manhattan? Want to make a few $$. Post here ASAP
need a view from you
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 13:18:34 (PDT)

WOODHAVEN is NOT listed in classmates..not as wood haven woodhaven or woodieheaven or weirdhaven
liar liar
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 13:15:17 (PDT)

I'M BACK
HIM <AFTER 3:45@WOL.COM>
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 12:56:21 (PDT)

Pakistan,shmakistan...As one of my illustrious co-horts has recently posted here..."Kill 'em all, and let Oliver and Hardy (or was that ALLAH) sort them out...
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 12:54:39 (PDT)

Kimber-licious---I have not checked my Hotmail address in a few dias...I will do so later today...thanx in advance !!!
Anti- Skell
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 12:51:01 (PDT)

News Flash....Stock prices of the world's leading turban manufacturers have nose dived...millions of surplus turbans are now flooding the world market, as I speak...Major diaper manufacturers are scurrying around,buying them up at bargain basement prices.A C.E.O. in the diaper industry was quoted as saying " when you think about it, the word "turban" means diaper for the head, in most Innuit cultures.W'ere just going to re-locate them to the right openings ".Also, it has been widely reported that millions of pythons have been seen evacuating their wicker baskets,in an attempt to hide from the oncoming onslaught.Snake charmers are slowly starving...Whirling Dervishes have been unable to whirl correctly,and many have broken their ankles as they were twisted beyond endurance levels...This news break was brought to you courtesy of A.S.S. ...
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 12:48:36 (PDT)

Pan American Airways, which operates a hub at Orlando Sanford International Airport, on Wednesday became the first U.S. airline to ban most carry-on luggage. The carrier now allows passengers to carry on only wallets, purses and, for those traveling with infants, diaper bags. But that's it. All other bags, including briefcases, laptop computers, backpacks and even fanny packs, must be checked as baggage.
The Orlando Sentinel
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 11:49:06 (PDT)

YES YES YES YES YES YES! They love the money. How much did they suffer when we placed sanctions on them after they were caught playing around with nuclear weapons? NOT AT ALL! I don't see it and their country seems to thrive. Bin has money and they have weapons...Hmmm again! Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
Hmmm
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 11:39:32 (PDT)

Me thinks Pakistan is afraid to not have us believe they are one of our allies. I think they are planning on double crossing us somehow. Until they do try & pull a fast one they are trying to gain our trust. I haven't figured out what they would gain. One theory is that bin Laden may help them financially. Who knows?? This is a tad complicated........
friend of hmmmm
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 11:34:54 (PDT)

Lani O'Grady, who played Dick Van Patten's oldest daughter on the 1970s TV show ``Eight is Enough,'' was found dead Tuesday. She was 46. O'Grady was found dead in her mobile home by a neighbor. The cause of death was under investigation, but there was no indication of suspicious circumstances, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department said. O'Grady played Mary Bradford, the eldest daughter of newspaper columnist Tom Bradford on the ABC comedy-drama that aired from 1977 to 1981. After the show, O'Grady drifted away from acting, according to a story in TV Guide last year. Her mother, Mary Grady, was one of Hollywood's top children's agents, and her brother, Don Grady, played Robbie Douglas on ``My Three Sons,'' which aired from 1960 to 1972.
(AP) -
SANTA CLARITA, CA USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 10:54:17 (PDT)

CLASSMATES.COM information : Possibly you have to go through the free registration before you get access to all the towns. I became St. Thomas alum #21 on Monday and as of this morning there are now 28 listed.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 10:44:37 (PDT)

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined."
sally
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 10:38:39 (PDT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Two Air Force generals have been authorized to order the military to shoot down any civilian airliner that appears to be threatening U.S. cities, Pentagon officials said Thursday. Seeking to reassure America's travelers of their safety, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld said: "There are a lot of safeguards in place." He said he had crafted the new rules of engagement for military pilots with Gen. Henry H. Shelton, who is retiring as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. "The last thing in the world that one of them wants to do is engage a commercial aircraft," Shelton said. "And so don't get the impression that anyone who's flying around out there has a loose trigger finger." Rumsfeld was asked if Americans should be worried about the policy since passengers could be trying to overcome a hijacker as people attempted on the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania Sept. 11. That was the only one of four hijacked planes that did not hit a terrorist target. "The rules of engagement are addressed on a continuing basis with a great deal of care and sensitivity to all of the points that you've raised and others have raised," Rumsfeld said, refusing to provide details.
Drive and see America!
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 10:30:19 (PDT)

Pakistan until a few weeks ago was a great friend of Bin Laden. Pakistan has nuclear power (the only country in the area that does). Pakistan suddenly says they will stand with us. Who believes them? If freedom and the US way is the better way, how did they not realize that weeks ago, and what really changed their minds? I wouldn't tell them any secrets, would you?
Hmmmm
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 10:27:34 (PDT)

Hmm, You got it! We can NOT trust Pakistan. Will they really allow us the space to do what is necessary?
PAKISTAN CAN NOT BE TRUSTED
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 10:24:00 (PDT)

Missed you, Sally.
Come again
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 09:59:35 (PDT)

"Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once."
sally
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 09:56:52 (PDT)

"Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once."
sally
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 09:40:55 (PDT)

"Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once."
sally
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 09:40:42 (PDT)

Indian? Pakastani?
Hmmm
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 09:13:39 (PDT)

Nassau resident, FYI The folks that own NWL are Indian.
Suffolk resident
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 08:32:21 (PDT)

yes-- that was my first reaction---why is this guy wearing a hat and coat?? what kind of sick bastard would create a picture like that????
curious
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 08:17:14 (PDT)

curious, that is a hoax. Who dresses like that out of season? The man, the photographer, the film, and the developed picture would have been incinerated on impact. I got that thing last week and there is another on being sent around that is similar. Everyone is a photo-shop freak!
Don't let it freak you!
Lies, lies, lies, USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 08:02:48 (PDT)

OMG- a relative just e-mailed me a picture that was taken by tourists on top of the WTC- it shows the first plane on it's way to the first tower. it is so disturbing. i have posted my e-mail if anyone wants to see it.
curious <curious3333@hotmail.com>
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 07:57:36 (PDT)

anti-- the site i get does not have WOOD HAVEN in any way shape or form listed.
the gifted in more ways than one- curious
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 07:41:03 (PDT)

Anti Skell: Hey, how are you? I sent you two e-mails. Did you get them?
kimber
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 07:12:37 (PDT)

Woodhaven,Shmoodhaven...if the "not so gifted" cannot find the site as easily as "the truly gifted",that is a minor shame...Now, what happened to Sheila and her big American breasteses...
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 06:59:43 (PDT)

The Mont----"Ask not what your WOL can do for you, ask what you can do for your WOL...." John Skellsgerald Kennedy... Nice to see you back--don't concern yourself with the Mount--- aka --- tubesteak...
Anti-Skell <harumphandhuzzah@skellpodium.com>
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 06:55:45 (PDT)

But you just did.......
Now you do again!
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 06:41:58 (PDT)

I like you, ken-sez!
i used to post here, but no more
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 06:25:17 (PDT)

there is no WOOD HAVEN listed when i check out classmates.com-- what's the deal with that? it also does not ask me to register-- i thought you had to. please, someone clue me in. p.s.- good morning all!
curious
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 05:48:09 (PDT)

Is it just me and my son Billy, or is everybody and I mean everybody sick of The Rock and his tired act. Whats your opinion, we'd like to know!
T P F K a The Mont
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 04:52:37 (PDT)

It is getting.....late....
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 00:09:55 (PDT)

I can say I spoke with someone (you don't know her, I do, so I am not listing her name) that spoke with the FBI with a tip that led to an arrest....a dozen in Florida! Person to Person. That story is real. This story in Baldwin may be too. Just wake up and listen. DO NOT ATTACK INNOCENT PEOPLE, but realize that there are enemies among us that do NOT wish Americans well. That is simple and clear. Some are cheering against us and some are deadly. I do not believe that Arab Americans are evil personified, but there are cells everywhere in our area and we need to learn to recognize dangerous situations. Don't be fools or vigilantes. Be sane and responsible. Tell the right people and let them do their job. I'd feel like a fool for not passing on something that could've saved a life. If any of you could have saved a soul at the WTC or Pentagon wouldn't you? How guilty do those flight instructors in Florida feel now? How could they ever have know? They couldn't but now WE do. I am sick with worry over our country and loved ones.
Tish
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 20:33:12 (PDT)

Norton Anti-virus, Are you really Art Carney in disguise? The only true Woodhaven.exe virus was from the symptoms you would get after eating at certain local diners at three in the morning after a few beers.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 20:04:49 (PDT)

Nassau Resident, you weren't there so you don't know if it's true. EVERY one of these stories has been "a friend of a friend"; "someone I used to work with" or "My Uncle told me..." Let's please confine our protests and boycotts to events that we actually witnessed. If some one saw such a thing themselves, then post away. Otherwise, remember Lour Reed's advice "Don't believe have of what you see and none of what you hear." Thank you.
Dougie
Tyler, TX USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 19:20:20 (PDT)

I don't know how true this is but I got the following email: On September 11, 2001, a friend of mine was shopping at National Wholesale Liquidators located at 2485 Grand Ave. In Baldwin New York. When the news of the horrific events at the World Trade center were announced the employees and managers and I presume the owners were clapping and Cheering at the news. She was horrified and ran out of the store.I don't think that we should go there and reciprocate and let them know our feelings. My brother already did that. Thank God the police were already at the store and he told him our story along with others. So we need to stop shopping there. I think that is all we can do at this point. We can also forward this letter to all the people we know in our local area. Once again that is National Wholesale Liquidators at 2485 Grand Ave Baldwin NY formally Pergements > > God Bless America
Nassau Resident
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 18:29:08 (PDT)

I for one will not stand up for many here, sorry Ken, you seem ok to me! Some don't appreciate the sentiments.
Been burned before
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 18:21:47 (PDT)

Also you Missy! After all, a post by any other name is as sweet!
Ken Sez
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 17:38:52 (PDT)

Lolly Lolly - You are a person of good taste!
Ken Sez
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 17:37:36 (PDT)

I vote for a former Ken Sez post, that is he posts but as the poster formerly known as Ken Sez.
Missy
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 15:04:08 (PDT)

I found pronouns!
Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 14:17:21 (PDT)

I like you Ken Sez
Lolly, Lolly, Lolly, Get Your Adverbs Here
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 14:16:09 (PDT)

Conjunction Junction, what's your function? Hookin' up words and phrases and clauses.
Conjunction Junction
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 14:15:02 (PDT)

I found my noun!
A Noun Is A Person, Place Or Thing
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 14:13:57 (PDT)

WOL readers - About 10 posts back somebody posted something about me and signed it WOL Readers. Seems to me that he was taking it upon himself to speak for a lot of people. Is there anyone out there who would like to tell this person to speak for himself, and not put words in your mouths. I'm taking a little gamble here, but i'd like a little support. Whether you like me or not, do you want this person speaking for you en masse.
Ken Sez
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 14:05:05 (PDT)

Go to classmates.com. Select BROWSE SCHOOLS, Select UNITED STATES (your other choices are Canada and American/Canadian Overseas Schools, Select NEW YORK (which is listed under STATES), Select the letter W, you will see lots of names. Immediately after Wolcott is listed WOOD HAVEN. The list to choose from is as follows: FRANKLIN K LANE,NEWTOWN HIGH SCHOOL,PUBLIC SCHOOL 60,PUBLIC SCHOOL 65,PUBLIC SCHOOL 66 PUBLIC SCHOOL 97,ST THOMAS APOSTLE.
^^
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 13:56:05 (PDT)

Tony Cerquira - Remember the time you cut your face running down the block (that was your story, and I imagine you are sticking to it), and my father took you to Dr. Palma??
Ken Sez
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 13:43:15 (PDT)

I have laughed myself silly with the post from "I'm losing my mind". I too have not been able to to Wood Haven. My computer must be from "John's Bargan Stores". I wonder if my company knows that. I have to leave now, but I'll try again tomorrow. Didn't see the U.S. thing there, but i'll look again.
Marge
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 13:41:03 (PDT)

That's Janet.
Miss Jackson, if you're nasty!
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 13:35:55 (PDT)

What nasty girl?
Confused
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 13:34:15 (PDT)

He gets home and on line here at WOL between 3:45 and 4:30 every day, and that is when the site goes to hell. The nasty girl pitches in so he has company. They are always confused and ask "what the point is?" which shows they are so ignorant that they can't recognize when they are the subject. Then the older ones get in it and act just as goofy. Don't give in to terrorism and don't become terrorists.
Find the Noun
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 13:32:26 (PDT)

Looking for some old buddies from Woodhaven.
Tony Cerquira
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 13:26:20 (PDT)

What number was that?
Do you mean 867-5309?
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 13:23:38 (PDT)

Can we get T P F K A Ken Sez?
Readers of WOL
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 13:10:43 (PDT)

JJ:Glen"Kit"Kittle is not missing or dead.I'm sure he would appreciate that you were worried about him.
John Zep
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 13:09:37 (PDT)

T P F K A The Mont - Glad you came to your senses! No I am not familiar with Stan Rodgers. I have an eerie premonition that this line of conversation is not going to end with this post?? Marge - I was the one talking about Matt Monro. Tks, I already have 2 cd's of his best, but to anyone else listening, who likes a good, no great, singer of popular songs, copy the nr. on Marge's post and call right now. You won't be dissapointed.
Ken Sez
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 13:07:30 (PDT)

We have just made available a fix for the woodhaven.exe virus. It is available at our website and is named removejimbo.zip.
Norton Antivirus
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 12:54:34 (PDT)

Hey Norton - POW! I oughta send you to the moon!
Ralph
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 12:51:51 (PDT)

We have just received notice that a user from Mineola has uploaded the woodhaven.exe virus to classmates.com and caused all sorts of problems for the website. Stay tuned for further updates and DO NOT open any files labeled Woodhaven attachments.
Norton Antivirus
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 12:48:01 (PDT)

I WOOD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM AVAILABLE TO HANDOUT RESTAURANT MENUS AND DENTAL SERVICE LITERATURE THIS CAN BE ARRANGED ON A DAILY BAISIS.
DAREALONE
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 12:43:13 (PDT)

losing my mind...I will search for your mind, and if I find it,I will put it, and us, out of our collective miseries...
Anti-Skell
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 12:33:47 (PDT)

JJ---The New York City Fire Department has a web site...It now lists all those missing, grouped by rank...it also has their photos, and assignments.Search, and when you see a description of a web site which starts "Welcome to the New York City Fire Department website"...it is probably the one...
Anti-Skell
- Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 12:32:29 (PDT)

OK- Fess up,who stole I am not crazy's Woodhaven ???? Your computer wasn't from Home Shopping Network was it? It's almost like skipping the Elderts Lane,Forest Parkway and Woodhaven Boulevard train stops.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 12:23:14 (PDT)

Ok, Cartman. Point taken.
Better luck next surf
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 12:21:55 (PDT)

Now now, thatis not such a nice attitude towards the mentally challenged, is it??????
Kick you in the Nutz
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 12:20:50 (PDT)

Jim, why bother? We have done all we can and this one has gone round the bend.
Reading is Fun-da-mental
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 12:16:50 (PDT)

I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven I Don't See Woodhaven
I am now crazy
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 12:15:03 (PDT)

Nope. I see Woodhaven.
Class Mate
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 12:08:43 (PDT)

Losing MY Mind- Just saw your post after I sent you mine. If the first W choice is Walden,either your computer is not loading up fully or it is like the Jamaica Ave El doing skip-stops. Is anyone else having trouble with this list?
Jim of Mineola
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 11:59:17 (PDT)

Driving Me Crazy-One more time,first go into www.classmates.com click on 'Browse Schools' THEN click on 'United States' THEN click on 'New York' (listing of states) THEN you get an a-z (town) index THEN click on W and you will get 2 columns ,the left starts with Wading River and the right starts with West Valley --Wood Haven is 2/3 down the right column THEN click on it to get your choice of Woodhaven schools. GOOD LUCK !!!
Jim of Mineola
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 11:53:32 (PDT)

MARY I CAN STILL BE REACHED OUT TO IN WOODHAVEN AND IF IT WOULD HELP AT ALL ID BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO FREE RESUMES FOR YOU TO HAND OUT .JUST E-MAIL ME.
MICKSTER <SPEEDO736@AOL.COM>
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 11:43:45 (PDT)

Do you see it???? Do you????? UNITED STATES > NEW YORK > W WALDEN WALLKILL WALTON WANTAGH WAPPINGERS FALLS WARNERS WARRENSBURG WARSAW WARWICK WASHINGTONVILLE WATERFORD WATERLOO WATERTOWN WATERVILLE WATERVLIET WATKINS GLEN WAVERLY WAYLAND WEBSTER WEEDSPORT WELLS WELLSVILLE WEST BABYLON WEST HEMPSTEAD WEST ISLIP WEST LEYDEN WEST NYACK WEST PARK WEST SAYVILLE WEST SENECA WEST VALLEY WEST WINFIELD WESTBURY WESTCHESTER WESTFIELD WESTHAMPTON BEACH WESTMORELAND WESTPORT WHITE PLAINS WHITEHALL WHITESTONE WHITESVILLE WHITNEY POINT WILLIAMSBURG WILLIAMSON WILLIAMSVILLE WILLSBORO WILSON WINDHAM WINDSOR WINGDALE WOLCOTT WOODHULL WOODLAWN WOODMERE WOODSIDE WORCESTER WYANDANCH WYOMING
I am losing MY MIND
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 11:43:25 (PDT)

Look under NEW YORK, the state. THEN select the city which would be Woodhaven.
You are on the way
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 11:36:54 (PDT)

What's your point?
This is THE REAL TOM
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 11:24:36 (PDT)

Hold on, Mary- help is on the way!
A Twist of Lemon
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 11:13:59 (PDT)

Under "W"? There is no Woodbury there either!!! And when you go into NEW YORK as a city, it just brings up various schools---
This is driving me crazy
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 11:12:23 (PDT)

HELP!!! Am locked in the Tiki Bar rum storeroom in Key West ... send Coke and ice!!!!
Mary
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 11:06:08 (PDT)

Great story: http://www.msnbc.com/news/633776.asp?pne=msn&cp1=1#BODY
Read this about Rudy G.
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 10:41:14 (PDT)

"But even the most despicable attack ever committed against America won't make propagandist popsters Rage Against the Machine change their tune. Unfortunate fans logging onto the band's Web site are greeted by a message that many would consider to be in amazingly bad taste. A one-dollar bill with the words "Burn me" scrawled across it is shown along with a note from lead guitarist Tom Morello, explaining that writing messages on money is "my own special form of protest . . . a quiet little hijacking and a federal crime." The opening montage is followed by a letter from Morello. It starts out expressing his sympathy for the thousands of innocent victims but rapidly turns into a lecture on the "evils" of America. "On Tuesday, the victims were American," Morello writes. "But the horrible scenes that we've witnessed on TV this week are regular occurrences in other places around the globe. And too often, violence like this has been meted out by our own country and its client states." Morello's rant against "violence in all its forms" then goes on to compare "religious fanaticism" to "our own domestic elite." Rage's website also includes a handy "reading list" on which convicted cop killer Mumia Abu Jamal's "International Terrorism and the CIA" is recommended along with "The Anarchist Cookbook," the famous bomb-making and sabotage guide."
Page Six - NY POST
The REAL Tom, USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 10:24:47 (PDT)

Does anyone know if it's true that firefighter Glen Kittle (former Woodhaven resident & STE graduate) is missing in the WTC tragedy?
JJ
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 10:21:57 (PDT)

TO HELP- Woodhaven is listed on classmates.com as Wood Haven and it comes before Woodbury.
Jim Of Mineola
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 10:18:59 (PDT)

Our deepest sympathy and condolences go out to all the people and their families affected by the attacks on Tuesday. The loss of innocent life is just terrible, and our thoughts go out to all of you who personally may have had friends or family killed or injured in the tragedy. The pain felt across the country demonstrates the lesson of Tuesday's events: that the taking of innocent life is devastating to a society and terribly wrong. On Tuesday, the victims were American. But the horrible scenes that we've witnessed on TV this week are regular occurrences in other places around the globe. And too often, violence like this has been meted out by our own country and its client states. We should stand together against this type of violence in all its forms, whenever it happens, whether its done in the name of religious fanaticism, or in the names of our own domestic elite. My best wishes go out to all of you. Take care of yourselves, and each other. Peace
Tom Morello
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 09:41:45 (PDT)

Woodhaven can not be found---
HELP!
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 09:41:00 (PDT)

The web site www.classmates.com has added grammar schools,as well as high schools, to it's list. Even with the free registration you can add your name as an alum of FKLane, PS60, PS65, PS97, or St. Thomas. For $29.95 a year you can send outgoing messages to anyone listed and also scan photos. Just click on United States -then- New York - then- Woodhaven. (I sent them a note to correct it from how it is now incorrectly listed, Wood Haven.) Please join in and tell any on line friends.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 09:02:13 (PDT)

Do you call your family daily? All of them? It could still be true, but...
Maybe You Are Right
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 09:02:12 (PDT)

It would seem that "Thank you", who accused Starbucks of being so petty, would know that his/her family was reimbursed. Doncha think??
hmmm
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 09:01:22 (PDT)

The definitive book on the Kennedy Assasination is Case Closed by Gerald Posner. He breaks down all of the consipracy theories and weighs them agains the evidence of LHO acting alone. The decision is so one-sided that you wil want to track down Oliver Stone and demand your six bucks back. Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, Case Closed. And I have never met anyone who has actually read this book that feels differently. (So, any conspiracy buffs, please read the book before you attack me on WOL). Mr. Posner by the way is a Liberal who in an op-ed piece on Monday rescinded his many allegations about the current President's leadership abilities.
Nicholas
Paris, TX USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 08:41:43 (PDT)

Jenny, Jenny Who can I turn to? You give me something I can hold on to I know you think I'm like the others before I saw your name and number on the floor Jenny, I got your number I'm gonna make you mine Jenny, dont change your Number 867-5309 867-5309 867-5309 867-5309 Jenny, Jenny Your the girl for me You dont know me but you make me so happy I tried to call you before but I lost my nerve I tried in my imagination but I was disturbed Jenny, I got your number I'm gonna make you mine Jenny, dont change your Number 867-5309 867-5309 867-5309 867-5309 I got it, I got it, I got your number on the wall I got it, I got it, for a good time, for a good time call Jenny I got your number I'm gonna make you mine Jenny, dont change your Number 867-5309 867-5309 867-5309 867-5309 Jenny, Jenny who can I turn to? 867-5309
It's just a song
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 08:38:59 (PDT)

Marge: For a better time call 867-5309, ask for Jenny
Tommy
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 08:31:23 (PDT)

SEATTLE (AP) -- Starbucks' president apologized to the owner of an ambulance company after a store near the World Trade Center made rescue workers pay $130 for water to treat victims of the terrorist attacks. Midwood Ambulance Service President Al Rapisarda said he received a hand-delivered reimbursement check -- and a personal call from Starbucks president Orin Smith -- after the incident became public. "It was a misunderstanding with Starbucks," Rapisarda said after talking to Smith. The ambulance service alerted Starbucks to the incident in an e-mail, which was obtained by the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. Smith said Tuesday he did not know why the coffee shop charged the rescue workers, who came in shortly after the attacks to get water to treat shock victims. "It's totally inconsistent with the kind of behavior we would have expected from our people, so it has been very upsetting to learn of this," Smith told The Associated Press. The manager of the store declined to comment.
1010wins.com
September 25, 2001 9:08 pm , USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 08:29:24 (PDT)

Some or one of you may have been looking for "Matt Monro" CD's. You can get them from Time Life, 43 songs in all. 800-382-2348. Catalog #: 7205-2.
Marge
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 07:58:33 (PDT)

Mary: If it were a doable thing, I'd let you have the garage. Lord knows it has wallboard, been painted, even the floors and the inside of the garage doors, great lighting. I will ditto Tish's sentiments and offer any help I can. I hope your search is short and successful.
Marge
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 07:29:58 (PDT)

MARY- Let me join in with those trying to express some comfort to you on losing your job. I hear the Tiki-Bar in Key West is looking for afternoon bartenders,room and board included. Interested ??? Marge's garage can be your first stop on the way down south. Times have changed with this generation switching jobs every few years. I am in the same category with you as I got my first job with N Y Tel, 37 years ago this Friday and never filled out a resume in all the years since then,just rode out the Bell System breakup and all the name changes that came along.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 06:45:46 (PDT)

Mary, if you need any assistance with your resume' regarding duplication of the item itself, cover sheets, or even faxing (from my private fax in my office) please do not hesitate to ask. I wish I could wave a wand and create the perfect position for you, but lacking such power this is the only other idea I had! Lots of good agencies in Woodbury - my sister in law works on Long Island and used some. I will get the names and list them for you.
Tish <tish223@hotmail.com>
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 06:41:59 (PDT)

Mickster, Marge, Tish: thank you for your kind words. I'm still in shock (why should I be any different?) over the WTC, going to wakes and funerals, losing my job. I am now formulating the first resume of my life (TWA started as my part time job after school when I was 18), and looking for a job. My only criteria: I will not go to the city and I will not work for an airline. I may have to live in Marge's newly built garage for awhile though.
Mary
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 06:29:14 (PDT)

Thank goodness TPFKAtheMont is back. When is the US mint releasing the $1.37 coin with your picture on it? It has to be more popular than the Sacagewea dollar. Next will be the KenSez $1.16 coin,the exact price of a Spalding rubber ball or a game of shuffleboard bowling at the Circus Bar.If a coin is minted for me,I want it to be the exact amount for a large bag of fries at Mike and Flo's 88 St. fish store.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 06:24:12 (PDT)

My family owns an ambulance service in Brooklyn NY. Midwood Ambulance if anyone knows it. Anyway, my uncles were at "Ground Zero" during the attack to help the victims. They donated their time to help with this crisis as many New Yorkers did. A great deal of people were in shock from the devastation. As many of you know, shock victims are supposed to drink a lot of water. My uncle went to the Starbucks down the street to get bottles of water for the victims he was treating. Can you believe they actually charged him for it!! He paid the $130 for 3 cases of bottled water out of his own pocket. Now, I would think that in a crisis such as this, vendors in the area would be more than happy to lend a little help by donating water. Well, not Starbucks! As if this country hasn't given them enough money! Anyway, the point of this story wasn't to glorify my uncle's actions but to suggest a boycott on Starbucks. Now, I love Frappaccinos as much as anyone, but any company that would try to make a profit off of a crisis like this doesn't deserve the American public's hard earned money. Please share this with everyone you know and encourage them to do the same.
Thank you!
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 06:20:27 (PDT)

MIDLAND, TX— Former president George Bush issued an apology to his son Monday for advocating the CIA's mid-'80s funding of Osama bin Laden, who at the time was resisting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. "I'm sorry, son," Bush told President George W. Bush. "We thought it was a good idea at the time because he was part of a group fighting communism in Central Asia. We called them 'freedom fighters' back then. I know it sounds weird. You sort of had to be there." Bush is still deliberating over whether to tell his son about the whole supporting-Saddam Hussein-against-Iran thing.
Newsflash
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 06:10:24 (PDT)

I hope the new name prints out correctly this time as it is rather rich in symbolism.
>>>T P F K a The Mont
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 05:55:01 (PDT)

Dan? Human error?????
Wanna buy a bridge?
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 05:36:10 (PDT)

With all of this groundswell of support I decided to come back. I have a new name now which is basically unpronouncable. All I can say is sounds like 'Sacagawea' but not quite. With that out of the way, let me give Mr. Jimbo these personal notes-I got the Entertainment Book and will bring it over to you on Saturday. Also the new Mineola High Principal looks like Stone Cold Steve Austin. And now this personal note to Ken Sez-Are you familiar with Stan Rogers, the late great Canadian folksinger?
>>> - The Poster Formerly Known as The Mont
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 04:57:56 (PDT)

Here's the REAL story behind the Kennedy assasination: (From the book"Mortal Error"..or Fatal Error): Oswald shot Kennedy. He missed one and hit the pres & gov with 1 other shot. Yes, the single bullet theory is correct and possible. Oswald was using full jacketed rounds that do not break up upon entry. The fatal head shot came from one of his (Kennedy's) guards who was riding in the car behind him. He (the agent) stood up when he heard the shot, holding his weapon..an M-16 or something that shoots a .223 soft point, tumbling round. This round literally explodes in a body upon entry. The car speeds up, he falls backwards and his gun goes off, hitting JFK in the head and literally blowing half of it away.6 Oswald's round could have never inflicted so much damage. Anyhow, Read the book....all this is coming from memory (I loaned the book out). It explains logically and scientifically how this happened. Mortal Error.
Dan
UPSTATE, awaiting 6 months of snow., NY USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 01:06:05 (PDT)

Welcome to a New Day....... (Hump Day)......Spend money If you have it , this will help the economy.
Night Owl
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 00:41:50 (PDT)

Last Post of the Day
Good Night Mont Wherever You Are
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 22:21:10 (PDT)

It's so nice to see all the American flags around town. Still, it amazes me that so many people who live in this country never owned a flag before September 11. There are plenty of places to find the Stars and Stripes, even now. The newspapers printed paper flags in the Sunday editions. The Internet has lots of downloads to print. Flags are being sold on the streets all over midtown Manhattan. I guess being a card-carrying member of the Liberal party makes me appreciate our freedom all year round. But it's never too late to show your appreciation for this country!
c78
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 17:28:00 (PDT)

Anti-Skell - You mean to tell me, you don't believe the one bullet theory. Oh yee of little faith!! Makes sense to me, of course i've been off my medicine for some time now. Excuse me, I think Elvis is at my door.
Ken Sez
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 16:39:05 (PDT)

Mick - That's what I was looking for!! Figured it would be easy for you.
Ken Sez
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 16:36:58 (PDT)

Im not sure of the question,but i believe if im getting it right it's "SHANE" you seek.:)
Mickster
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 16:06:44 (PDT)

http://www.terroristattack.com
JamesB
Russia - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 15:45:07 (PDT)

FYI---It has been widely determined that Lee Harvry Oswald never fired a shot at Kennedy...he was caught in triangular " turkey shoot" setup...He is widely being regarded as a shill-a fall guy of some sort...He was probably involved, but was not a triggerman...All related documentation regarded as classified,(if it still exists), will be released in about 30 years---long after the deaths of all the individuals involved...no one will ever be sucessfully prosecuted for staging that coup de etat in which Kennedy was murdered...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 15:03:49 (PDT)

Dinkins IS a chip...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 14:51:51 (PDT)

MONT! COME BACK, COME BACK MONT! OK Mickster, what great movie did that come out of (paraphrased, to be sure}?? Mont there are more here fer ya than agin ya. Get back here!!!!!
Ken Sez
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 14:47:45 (PDT)

Did anyone see Charlie Rose last night? He had Koch, Dinkins and Cummo talking about Gulliani hanging in for another term? FORMER MAYOR Dinkins has a real chip on his shoulder!!!
Fan of Rudy and Ed
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 14:17:48 (PDT)

Wiseacre: Yeah, wasn't that somethin'. How'd she find this site?
Marge
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 13:49:13 (PDT)

I'm glad I mad someone smile today ("Thanks"). Did you catch Marge corresponding with Lee Harvey Oswald's widow?
Wiseacre
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 13:17:15 (PDT)

I pity the fool who says all T names suck!
Mr.T <B.A@A-Team.com>
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 13:12:53 (PDT)

All the T names suck.
.
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 13:06:59 (PDT)

Hey- who are you calling Tralala?? I am offended!
Vermin
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 12:58:52 (PDT)

Tralala the vermin remains.
We need Pest Control!
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 12:42:30 (PDT)

hi Marge! Looks like we are here at the same time. Wish they'd make a chat room!
Terrorists Suck
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 12:37:15 (PDT)

After 2 weeks of being sad the wiseacre/reposter on WOL gave me a laugh today.
Thanks
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 12:36:39 (PDT)

Anti-Skell: You handle things well. I'm impressed.
Marge
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 12:36:35 (PDT)

Mrs. Oswald: The comment was just the way it was.
Marge
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 12:36:07 (PDT)

c78 - I do exactly what you mentioned every 4th of July. I go house to house and put a small AMerican Flag in the ground by my neighbors mail boxes. It was so nice to see that after this tragedy, every neighbor had a flag to put in front of their house because of me. Even if it is a 3x5 flag..it symbolizes our heritage, or liberty and our freedom. God bless us all, American or not. No justice, no peace.
Terrorists Suck
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 12:35:59 (PDT)

The Mont: I addressed my reply to "The Mount". If that is the imposter, then I didn't direct it at you, "The Mont". No need for you to be offended. It's "The Mount" that has the problem. I also use my real name.
Marge
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 12:33:53 (PDT)

What the hell is going on here? The REAL MONT FOREVER!!
Jim of Mineola
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 12:30:26 (PDT)

You are confused and you have the
Hic-ups
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 12:03:33 (PDT)

If the Mont leaves, does that mean the Mount also leaves? They are different people, I think, so why would one cause the other one to leave, I am so
Confused
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 12:00:01 (PDT)

If the Mont leaves, does that mean the Mount also leaves? They are different people, I think, so why would one cause the other one to leave, I am so
Confused
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 11:58:58 (PDT)

Marge: : We could all get along if you'd keep your not-so-nice comments to yourself. The comment about my husband was totally uncalled for. Don't understand what the purpose was so just leave it alone.
Mrs. Oswald
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 11:57:21 (PDT)

Dear Mont, I understand your concerns and have long lobbied for having the webmaster require the posting of real names (like I do). There wouldn't be half the nasty posts and imposters. At least your imposter used a different name.
John P. {my real name}
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 11:43:57 (PDT)

curious, yes they all were.
Tish
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 11:33:27 (PDT)

God bless us all....everyone.
Murray the Cop
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 10:42:01 (PDT)

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
John F. Kennedy
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 10:07:11 (PDT)

Mount---we would never insult The Mont by confusing him with the likes of you...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 09:59:25 (PDT)

Mount---we would never insult The Mont by confusing him with the likes of you...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 09:59:24 (PDT)

Marge...you will be fine...no one is following you...except maybe the drunken garage terrorist who may be searching for his teeth(just kidding).I knew 15 of the FDNY. While I am disturbed at their loss, I understand the value of their presence,and the fact that they saved several thousand via an orderly evacuation before they died.It takes the sting out a bit.I had posted a letter last week written by a Chief of the FDNY in the early 1900's, but it is now archived.I have it on a plaque in my home, and the Fire Unions, the UFA and the UFOA periodically place it in their yearly calendars as a reminder...it sums up mostly what we feel in the FDNY...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 09:57:35 (PDT)

This will be my last post until some sort of password system is instituted. I really don't care if I'm attacked personally, but when others that I don't even know such as Marge are offended by some fraud it is time for me to say goodbye. Ken Sez, Mr. Jimbo I have your Email addresses and will stay in touch. WOL Rep, The Mount and BoB: you won't have The Mont to kick around anymore!
The Mont <RAM999@APEXMAIL.COM>
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 09:53:46 (PDT)

Marge, interesting anecdote about Lee Harvey Oswald. Here's one that most people don't realize. He actually went to HS and spent a lot of his formative years in NY. The Bronx, specifically.
Nicholas
Parris Island, SC USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 09:53:14 (PDT)

The Pentagon has just announced that it has contacted the Skellagon,and signed a contract for two thousand Anti-Skellistic Missles.I have several varieties,among them "Turban Trashers "," Camel Crushers " and " Sand Blasters" ,just to name a few...I am proud to say that A.S.S. has always, and will continue, to make this country great !!!
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 09:49:01 (PDT)

Tish: Thanks for trying to make me feel better about being alone. When I am alone during the week I will be doing the change of cloths for the season thing...shoes and cleaning the closet one night, dresser drawers the next and then the hanging stuff in the closet. That should keep me pretty busy. As long as I don't hear any strange noises I should be ok.
Marge
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 09:46:44 (PDT)

Anti-Skell: Thanks so much for thinking about me. I'm doing ok. While I am still carrying a heavy sadness for it all, I heal a little every time I cry. I'm a bit spooked though. Hate going outside at night alone now. I get this weird feeling like someone is coming around the corner at me. I'm so afraid of what awaits our nation down the road from these crazies and I feel so sad for our military people who have to go through this and my never come back. Except for a few ridiculous comments from some on here, it's nice to have the WOL friends to chat with and share all these same feeling with. How are you doing? I know you lost a lot of friends in NY.
Marge
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 09:44:56 (PDT)

The Mount: We could all get along if you'd keep your not-so-nice comments to yourself. The comment about my husband was totally uncalled for. Don't understand what the purpose was so just leave it alone.
Marge
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 09:37:19 (PDT)

Tish: What you said to Mary was so nice. Wish I could have been as elioquent as you in my message to her. While she, and many others, are not direct victims of this tragedy, they are indirectly affected because of the layoffs. I'm wondering if there is some way to get some of the relief funds to those, like Mary, who have children, may be single parents and have lost their jobs? Anyone have any ideas? And, WOW Trish. What a story about your friends, the FBI and the arrests. Good for them. It's scary that they had that experience.
Marge
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 09:36:00 (PDT)

no, anti, i am.....
curious
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 09:27:42 (PDT)

We have amassed more aircraft in the gulf region than we had for the gulf war...I will wear earplugs when the fireworks start...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 09:11:54 (PDT)

Marge...how you holding up ??? Anti-Skell has been thinking of you, and everyone else...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 09:04:12 (PDT)

Micksterbrau---glad to see you didn't need to use your parachute,which was manufactured by A.S.S.I just found out you were given the Polish model---it is a pile of chords packed in a bag, without any other fabric...made for a quick descent, or so I am told...In all seriousness...thanks for your kind words last week before you left, and glad to see you have reterned intact...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 09:01:49 (PDT)

Micksterbrau---
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 08:58:34 (PDT)

Curious...I am curious, curious...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 08:57:29 (PDT)

hey- that response was not me-- lousy imposter!
the real curious
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 08:14:03 (PDT)

c78, You can't seriously begrudge someone who isn't flying an American Flag. Are you so small minded that you would do such a thing? Many folks have tried to obtain flags to no avail. The stores just don't have enough supply for the demand. Don't you read the papers? No wonder you voted for Hillary!!!!!Get a grip.
hillary is a nightmare
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 08:12:50 (PDT)

no, we can't.
curious
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 08:02:35 (PDT)

You will miss me when I am gone, Mr. Mickster.
One Faceless Schmuck
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 08:01:42 (PDT)

Then I may have something for curious...
The Mount
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 07:58:07 (PDT)

Can't we all just get along, curious?
The Mount
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 07:57:03 (PDT)

I would prefer a MOUNT to a Mont anyday!!
Feeling Frisky
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 07:56:36 (PDT)

tish-- was this person of a middle-eastern background? even creepier.....
curious
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 07:55:23 (PDT)

Please. I am The Mount: not to be confused with the Mont as in Montgomery. Do my notes really seem that to be of the Mont's, ahem , quality?
The Mount
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 07:54:31 (PDT)

Marge - I heard Oswald thought your husband was very quiet and strange too.
The Mount
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 07:50:39 (PDT)

Don't know what to say? Hmm, you forgot how to spell your own name.
Watcher
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 07:49:40 (PDT)

Tish, I don't know what to say to that...
The Mount
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 07:47:37 (PDT)

One last post. I was going to share this yesterday but because it was unresolved I chose not to do so. Ten minutes ago I was given the happy news that our justice system was hard at work. A very dear friend of mine has a relative in Florida that she is very close to, and speaks to several times a week. The relative relayed a disturbing exchange she had last Friday. She went to her neighborhood gas station, with friends in the car, to fill up. No one was saying anything during the payment exchange but all had serious faces as they had been discussing the NY and Washington attacks while the gas was filling the tank. The attendant collecting the money sneered at the driver and lowered his face so the passengers could see him and snarled "SOOOOOOOOO, how does it FEEL? HUH?! Tell me how does it feel to YOU?". They were so shocked by his comment, and its meaning, as it sunk in but mostly they were terrified by the look on his face and the viciousness of his tone. Incredibly no one did a thing outside of leave the gas station immediately! Yesterday when the relative told my friend, she was so disturbed by the nature of the comments that she came to my office to talk. We both felt that it should be reported, located the number for the FBI in her area, and called back the relative to urge her to take action. Last night that gas station owner and nearly a dozen other men (all employees and OTHER gas station owners in that community) were arrested, not detained. The FBI had been watching them and probably would have gotten them at some point anyway, but my friends relative's call is what made them act last night. She and her friends will be questioned further, but I feel better and stronger knowing the FBI is working hard to protect us.
Tish
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 07:28:54 (PDT)

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/25/nyregion/25RUMO.html?todaysheadlines
NY TIMES
What is true?, USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 06:54:32 (PDT)

Getting my posts in now because I haven't got the luck of curious... This morning as we were travelling into Manhattan, we came upon the longest delays yet on the LIE at the Midtown Tunnel. For the past week, there is a newly created lane which is for vans and trucks to pull in for searching before paying the toll. I am used to that sigh now. TODAY on the opposite lanes, there was a whole new search of ALL the commuter buses - State troopers were stopping and walking on buses. I saw this happen with nearly a dozen buses (that is how long the traffic takes to crawl along). When we did reach the other side of the tunnel, the empty returning commuter buses were being searched too. Scary to see, but comforting to know these guys and gals are on top of it all.
Tish
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 06:51:19 (PDT)

Mary, I know that TWA must have lost a great employee in you. I hope your hardships are few, and your opportunities are many. Best of luck.
Tish
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 06:43:44 (PDT)

curious, you are the lucky one! Mine is in all day and there is no relief in sight. Mickster, welcome back! Glad your travel was safe and happy you felt the love of the country. C78, it took me a over a week to find a flag in a store myself. Every place I went to was sold out. I ended up in a party goods store and bought string of flags on a banner. When I got home I cut all the connecting string and placed my many flags all over my windows and car. I feel such comfort when I see a flag on a car or house, but also know that these people are among us and fooled us for so long. They dress as we do, work as we do, and may even decorate as we do. For me, it will be hard to trust again. Marge, did you work in that slow dance? Glad you have company while Mr. Marge travels. You have lots of folks that love and care for you to fill in the other spots. Just look both ways, lock your doors and catch up with friends every night on the phone. I start early every year, but I have thrown myself into Christmas shopping and that is cheering me up...maybe it will work for you.
Tish
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 06:42:25 (PDT)

Oh, Mary! I feel so bad. What are you going to do? I wish I could help.
Marge
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 06:39:24 (PDT)

Nicholas: Speaking of Lee Harvey Oswald, he was under my husband's command. When Oswald shot Pres. Kennedy, my husband was questioned about him by some authorities and the newspapers. He spoke to the authorities, but not to the newsmedia. He said that Oswald was always very quiet and very strange.
Marge
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 06:38:45 (PDT)

good morning-- my boss is gone for the whole day, so curious will get to play!! yipppeeeee!!
curious
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 06:27:39 (PDT)

Has curious arrived yet?
Dave
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 05:23:42 (PDT)

BoB (Real or pretender) - Just one last thing, It's Mont as in Montgomery, not Mount as in horses or otherwise.
The Mont
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 05:03:55 (PDT)

Mary,Im sorry that has happened,honest.I was trying to make the same point,you are 100% correct.Good Luck.
Mickster
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 20:04:18 (PDT)

Aside from knowing several friend sand neighbors who lost their lives, as we all do, I have now lost the job I have had for 30 years at TWA. So your bickering seems so unimportant.
Mary
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 19:25:16 (PDT)

Yes im back, just reading the post's. how is everyone? i needed a bit of a break and it was nice to see how people in other states are rallying behind us.On sports programs and live in the mid-west,i liked what i seen.I was very happy to be home in the city even amongst the disaster im proud to be from here.I see everyone lightening up on the rudeness here for awhile but always seems to be one faceless schmuck on the board.Just tell me one thing..What are you getting out of being that way?
Mickster
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 19:06:53 (PDT)

Today when I dropped my son off in his classroom there was a horrible odor. When I looked around there was a Policeman who was filthy, exhausted and smelled terrible. This poor guy had just gotten home for the first time since last week. He was embarrassed to be so dirty but he wanted to take his son to school. The boy wouldn't let him leave but when he hung on him the dirt was getting on his clothes too. The parents standing around were dumbfounded. We each spoke quietly to him and wished him rest but it didn't seem like enough. After reading thought provoking I can't stop thinking of what that poor guy has seen. He's doing the work we all wish we could do.
Sad
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 18:25:39 (PDT)

Tish, I don't think we should be boycotting Arab-owned stores because of rumors, either. This isn't an ideal solution, but I'm putting all establishments through the flag test: if they display American flags, they can't be all bad. I'm also making mental notes of all houses around here which are not flying our colors. I still haven't decided what to do with that infomation, but I did give small flags to the neighbors on either side of my house.
c78
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 17:13:41 (PDT)

Bob - Well it certainly seemed pretty direct, but having said that, let's put it behind us, and look forward to years, er, months, er, uh, days? of banter, sometimes light, sometimes profound, and maybe even thought provoking. What do you say?
Ken Sez
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 16:56:35 (PDT)

Ken, since you asked, my comments to Reenie was a basis of comparison, and was not said at that time as a direct or indirect insult to you and the mount. Reenie wanted to forward a written work to a newspaper, that if legitimate, might win a Pulitzer prize for reporting. I merely suggested to Reenie that this note was not an original by a WOLer by asking her to compare it to the banter typical on this site, i.e. your and the mount's chat.
BoB
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 16:10:06 (PDT)

Bob - I'm going to raise this to a different level. Can you just tell me why you would invoke mine, and the Mont's name in a disparaging manner, out of the clear blue sky. What is it about our simple talks about music that bothers you. Is it too early, still, to be talking about things on a lighter note, or is that, as I would have thought, up to each and every individual. By the way Mick, if you are around, the answer to your trivia question, offered just before the attack, is Cagney, just before he pushed the grapefruit into Mae Clarke's face!!
Ken Sez
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 15:50:19 (PDT)

Micksterberg-----Have you returned yet ??? The inquiring mindless want to know...
Anti-Skell
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 15:16:48 (PDT)

To the "Gang" - Ken, Mont, Mr. Marine Expert Shot, be sure to check out the new Ellen DeGeneres show tonight.
A Friend
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 15:14:49 (PDT)

Thanks to my imposter for attempting to help me, I think,
The Real BoB
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 14:59:39 (PDT)

Nick- PR?-Rosie Roads
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USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 14:47:05 (PDT)

The only Ex-Marine is Lee Harvey Oswald. Semper Fi.
Nicholas
Parris Island, SC USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 14:43:48 (PDT)

There are no tears left. The pain and fear and guilt and anger must be burried with the lives and souls of the departed in that forever charred place called Ground Zerro.. If we grieve too long, we will be weakened and unable to overcome this horror. We will be exactly what the perpatrators wanted us to be, distracted. It is a time for doing and rebuilding and living. I for one will spend every spare moment making myslef a better person, to make the world around me a better place. And sometimes, you haev to be mean to be good. Sometimes, you have to be angry to be good. Sometimes, like now, you have to seek justice. This is not revenge. This is not retaliation. Justice is all I want. Plain and simple. I will not boycott Arab owned establishments. I will not sneer at those who believe in Islamic ways. They are not the ones who forever changed the face of NY and the lives of so many. The real criminals must be brought to justice. Then, and only then, we will have peace. In the words of so many, I have never seen anything like this. Let us all be greatful for that!
Terrorists Suck
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 14:09:11 (PDT)

My prayers goes out to everyone that lost a love one on this sad and tragic day. May God be wih each of you.
Manyetta Grissett-Mitchell <mimisnshn29@aol.com>
Baldwin, fl USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 14:01:50 (PDT)

Nicholas and all other ex-Marine's: Oops! So, so sorry. Please don't tell my husband. He was an officer in the Marine's.
Marge
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 14:01:13 (PDT)

Wise Guy,I know what you ment and I still Thank You for serving.
Thanks again
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 13:44:33 (PDT)

You want a list of my published works?..Ok...Here goes,Top shelf stuff....1)Three men and a baby.....A story about Ken Sez,Bob C,and The Mont,with Mickster as the baby2)Ken,Bob,Jim,Mont...A story about a homoerotic encounter at the Kew Motor Inn between old time friends3)Mr.Met goes to bat...A story about how Mr.Met goes crazy one night at Shea and attcks a couple guys over their inane banter4)Pablum Puker:ACLU...A story of one mans struggle to get son of sam out of jail on account of his beliefs ....All can be found in your nearest Walden Books.
BoB
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 13:42:51 (PDT)

Bob: Yes it is Semper Fi...and it means Always Faithfull Don't spell well... But I'm an Expert Shot, I put down my books and picked up a gun, at a young age....
Wise Guy
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 13:34:39 (PDT)

BoB, I bet Reenie's been here longer than you have so she may be well aware of the cut and paste brigade. It was a great piece that deserved comment no matter whom the author. As for the frequent errors and lack of spell check options, so what? Hard to believe these slips are intentional and that there are some humans that DON'T make them too. Seems like you got up on the wrong side of the Guest Book today.
Live and Let Live
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 13:26:28 (PDT)

Bob - Sorry we're not up to your literary standards. Just a couple of regular guys talking 'bout music. Sorry, I didn't get the list of your published works??
Ken Sez
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 13:14:48 (PDT)

I am sorry that my ramblings do not offer deep inner meanings. I will try harder to reach the standards that are expected at WOL.
The Mont
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 13:09:22 (PDT)

Hey Wise Guy marine - isn't it semper fi, not "sempi fi"?
BoB
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 13:05:22 (PDT)

Bob: I think you are probably correct. (Good writing though, very professional)- It still brought those images to light.
Reenie
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 12:45:57 (PDT)

Reenie - I doubt that "Thought Provoking" was an original piece written by a WOLer. It's a bit more profound than the Ken Sez/Mont/etc. writings. Haven't you noticed the cut and pasting that is prevalent here? If it was an original WOL writing I'd be surprised.
BoB
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 12:40:01 (PDT)

After reading your account again, I realized everyone outside of the city can only imagine the feelings of terror and anguish of the people in close proximity to this horro that you so eloquently described. With your permisson may I forward this to our local newspaper? Just post a message here to let me know.
Reenie
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 12:24:16 (PDT)

Thanks Marine
For Keeping us safe
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 11:54:28 (PDT)

The Few.... The Proud.....
The Marines
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 11:49:24 (PDT)

Sempi Fi..Do or Die...First to Fight... Proud to have served...U.S.M.C.(73-76)Once a Marine Always a MARINE....
Wise Guy
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 11:45:21 (PDT)

We all have a lots of tears left I think. To Thought Provoking: These things are heart wrenching, things no one wants to hear, but it brings the reality of it all right into your mind. Most Americans never experienced war, not on our own land, they could only imagine what the rubble of war is like in your own yard. Peace be with all.
Reenie
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 11:05:34 (PDT)

Thought Provoking: That was an incredible story. Well done! So glad you made it.
Marge
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 11:01:11 (PDT)

Marge, Marines are not Soldiers. They are Marines. The Army has Soldiers. Semper Fi.
Nicholas
San Juan, PR USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 10:53:22 (PDT)

yes, tish, i saw her-- she was very emotional and made me tear up once again. all i know is that when i see her i think of her cursing a blue streak like erin broko-whatever.
curious
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 10:50:23 (PDT)

Okay curious, I saw this in the NY Daily News...Julia Roberts came close to breaking down Friday night when she appeared on "America: A Tribute to Heroes," the unprecedented worldwide telethon for the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Other than donating $1 million to the American Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund and another $1 million to the telethon fund, she has dealt with this atrocity much like the rest of us.
Tish
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 10:37:07 (PDT)

Who keeps posting these mini-essays and "news" flashes?
Confused
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 10:29:32 (PDT)

Patriotism and altruism kept many Americans glued to their sets this weekend. Friday's all-star telethon ''America: A Tribute to Heroes,'' drew an average of 59 million viewers, with as many as 89 million tuning in over the course of the telecast, which aired on some 30 networks. Final figures of how much money the show raised for disaster relief will be released later today, but early estimates are as high as $110 million.
Entertainment Weekly
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 10:27:36 (PDT)

IT has been nearly two weeks now and the face of my city has changed for ever. Her eyes are haunted by desolation and grief, etched with fear of the gruesome, unspeakable terrors we know are still to come. There are some things people should never have to know in life - unthinkable, sickening things that make the mind recoil in shuddering horror. We in New York live with those things every day now. We know, for example, that rats have made their way from the Hudson River to the rubble-strewn graveyard where thousands of our countrymen lay dead. We know that the rain of the past few days has turned that monolithic tomb into a running sore, that lime in the cement is doing its own devouring. We watch aghast as our heroic firefighters stumble exhausted from their dreadful toil, their eyes windows to souls writhing in pain and disbelief at the monstrous scenes they are witnessing. It is difficult to convey the utter dismay we feel, the shocking, guilt-inducing desire to not want to know and, especially, to not want to see. Like most, we see only a sanitised version on our TVs of the true extent of the evil visited on this city by terrorists. But unlike you, we know our city now smells like an unclean butcher's shop. We know the wind changed direction yesterday and we had to leave our apartments, the cloying scent of death too much to bear. Some subway stops smell so bad, people are losing it, desperate for escape and knowing there is none. Does this sound too rough? I'm sorry but this is what it's really like. I saw people jumping to their certain death, heard the thud as their bodies hit the ground, saw what remained of them. They didn't look human. They were just smears on the rubble. I knew then - as I took refuge behind a pillar, choking on dust, blinded and certain that I too was going to die - that nobody could have survived if they had been in those towers when they collapsed. I'm haunted by the screams, by the sounds of fire engines, cars, ambulances exploding into flames before the second tower - grinding, twisting, groaning - came crushing down. The noise, the blackness, the smoke and dust, the heart-withering screeches of pain and fear ... it was hell on Earth. I knew nobody could have survived. But I didn't want to know. It is why, today, the grieving here in New York has only just begun. We've been on hold, too shocked and appalled to accept the truth. I escaped with my life but only just. I had run into the lobby of a building - I still don't know which - in pitch darkness. A shower of rubble blocked the entrance and we were trapped, until a policeman shot through a window to help us escape. If I could I'd like to thank him - and a fireman too. I have his number, 24811, but cannot find out if he is alive. I helped him help broken but living people to safety, as the tormenting sight of dismembered limbs and body parts lay around us. Like the millions upon millions of other people here in New York, I couldn't give up the ghosts until now. Giving up hope seemed like giving in, a betrayal of the dead. On September 29, I will attend the funeral of my friend Sean. There is no body and we know that there never will be now. Instead, his girlfriend Chrissie, 25, whom I have known since High School, will carry an urn full of dust scraped from the clothes I was wearing on September 11. It is all she has left to represent Sean's ashes. There are thousands upon thousands who do not even have that. Sean was 26, a financier on the 96th floor of the second tower to collapse. He called Chrissie to tell her his building was being evacuated but got cut off mid-sentence. Chrissie saw the second tower disappear as she watched from her apartment window. She and Sean had been together for two years and were due to wed. Last Sunday, we attended a memorial service for people who had worked at his firm. There was a sole survivor, a girl who had telephoned in to say she would be late for work. She is not glad to be alive. Instead, she feels eaten by a soul-destroying guilt that she was spared. There's an unmistakable note of hysteria in her voice when she speaks. And in Chrissie's and in mine and in the voices of most New Yorkers. The ripple of grief has only just begun. The tidal wave has not yet hit the shore. Thousands of parents have outlived their children. Thousands of mothers and fathers have died. Friends, cousins, aunts, husbands, wives, the tentacles of grief reach ever further, around the world. The view from here is very different now. Just two weeks ago, many people felt sympathy for what they call the "Irish cause". They called the IRA freedom fighters. They helped raise money for them. All this way over the ocean, it was easy for that cause to be romanticised, idealised. Not now. Those voices have fallen silent. Many of the firefighters and policemen murdered at Ground Zero, many who daily dig out the remains of their colleagues, were Irish-American or just Irish. They are our heroes and they feel a blind rage at what has been perpetrated by terrorists here. There is a wall at Ground Zero where the firefighters leave messages to one another. Scrawled across it is a simple, emotional response: "Nuke them". There is much good rising here, phoenix-like from the ashes of destruction. Compassion and humanity have appeared in abundance where once New Yorkers prided themselves on their steam-rolling, can't-stop aggression. People take a few minutes to wait or to think. And now they are thinking that terrorism is terrorism whatever disguise these cowards adopt. That is where our grief is focused now - not on a race or a religion, not on Muslims or Islam, but on a desire to see the bad guys, wherever they are, whoever they may be, brought to justice. Perhaps good can come for all of us from this hell. Here, in New York, that's the only hope we have left.
Thought provoking--
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 10:11:25 (PDT)

THE largest air armada seen since World War Two was zeroing in on evil mastermind Osama bin Laden last night. At least 630 US warplanes will join the battle against international terror - THREE TIMES as many as America deployed in the war against Saddam Hussein. More than a hundred jets are already in the Gulf, poised to strike at bin Laden and his henchmen in the wildernesses of Afghanistan. Another 250 have been ordered to the region from bases around the world by President George W Bush. And 280 more are on board four US aircraft carriers which are moving into position with a 41-ship battlefleet. The warplanes will be backed up by America's stockpile of 3,500 cruise missiles. Crack British SAS troops are ready to slip into Afghanistan to link up with anti-Taliban rebels and capture bin Laden. And a British fleet - including an aircraft carrier, a nuclear sub, destroyers and a troop support carrying 3,000 Marines - was last night heading for the Suez Canal. The unprecedented show of strength sends a clear message to the world that the US-led war on terrorism is about to begin. The four US carriers will be key players in any large-scale attack on Afghanistan. They have been ordered to the area from as far away as Virginia and Japan. The USS Theodore Roosevelt is accompanied by 13 ships, one nuclear submarine and 15,000 American troops. USS Carl Vinson has 11 ships alongside it, including destroyers, battle cruisers and attack subs. USS Enterprise will be joined by 12 ships - all similar types to Carl Vinson's escort. As well as warplanes, it will be carrying about 120 special forces troops. And the USS Kitty Hawk will be joined by four support ships. Giant B-52s - which can launch cruise missiles - and deadly stealth bombers are also expected to fly to the region. RAF Tornado jets can be called in quickly to boost the force because many still patrol in the Gulf in the wake of the 1991 war against Iraq. The announcement of the massive deployment spurred Afghanistan's rebel Northern Alliance to launch a bloody new offensive against the hated Taliban forces yesterday. In a day of heavy fighting, the rebels claimed to have killed 80 Taliban militia, taken 200 others prisoner and captured key territory. Meanwhile, Taliban leaders tried to worm their way out of defying America's demand that they hand over bin Laden - by claiming he had gone missing. But US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld accused them of lying - and he repeated America's vow to hunt him down and bring him to justice. Taliban fighters responded last night by building bunkers, setting up anti-aircraft batteries and arming men in key border areas to defend against possible attack. Their arsenal includes deadly Stinger anti-aircraft missiles - which America itself supplied the Soviet occupation. An unmanned US spy plane went missing over northern Afghanistan yesterday. The Taliban immediately insisted they had shot it down. But Pentagon chiefs dismissed the claim and said the aircraft may simply have had technical trouble. It was said to have been gathering intelligence for the CIA. Earlier, Bush lifted sanctions against Pakistan and India as a reward for their backing of US action following the carnage in New York and Washington which has left an estimated 6,750 people dead or missing. The sanctions were imposed in 1998 after the rival nations successfully tested nuclear weapons. British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw is due to visit Iran today to discuss co-operation in a war on terrorism with the anti-Taliban Islamic state. ISRAELI Prime Minister Ariel Sharon cancelled truce talks with the Palestinians yesterday, blaming continuing violence in Gaza and the West Bank. A RECORD 90 per cent of Americans back President Bush's handling of the crisis. His approval rating in a Gallup poll yesterday beat the old record of 89 per cent, held by his dad after the 1991 Gulf War. The president joined Marines for a ceremony at Camp David as the flag flew above half-mast for the first time since the attacks, ending official mourning. Bin Laden dodged US strike TERROR chief Osama bin Laden escaped a US missile strike by minutes, it was revealed yesterday. More than 60 Tomahawks slammed into targets across Afghanistan in a bid to kill the fanatic in 1998. One destroyed a house where bin Laden had met henchmen less than an hour earlier. The hit - from warships in the Gulf - was ordered by then president Bill Clinton to avenge the bombings of two US embassies in East Africa. Bin Laden was behind the massacre, which killed 224.
The Sun
London, England - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 10:11:14 (PDT)

We are going to LIGHT UP AMERICA and share a time of unity, prayer and sorrow for all the lives lost and show the world that we are truly, "One nation, under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all"! On Tuesday, September 25th, our nation will come together as one for a Candlelight Memorial for all affected in this tragedy. It will last for 15 mins. These are the times for the entire nation to be dark: Pacific: 8 pm to 8:15 pm; Mountain: 9 pm to 9:15 pm; Central: 10 pm to 10:15 pm and Eastern 11 pm to 11:15 pm. All individuals, businesses, cities, municipalities, fire stations, ball parks, car dealerships, malls, anyone or anyplace should turn on every light they have for that 15 mins. Outside lights, car lights, floods, whatever. Turn off air-conditioning and non-essential appliances so there are no power issues. Hold flashlights and candles to the sky and pray for those lost, hurting and rescue workers, our President and leaders to make this right. Get this out to as many as possible including newspapers, newsmedia, key community people, etc. Let's make our nation glow for all the world to see and let them know we stand up against evil, as one nation, we grieve as one nation and we continue on as one nation.
let'slightuptheworld.com
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 09:49:31 (PDT)

Tish: I too cry at the least little thing. Last Thursday morning, getting ready to leave for work, I saw the "911" of Marines leaving Camp LeJune (sp?). One of the soldiers was holding his tiny infant in his hands. And as he put the infant in the carrage you could read his thoughts. He was trying to put that little face in his memory to take with him. You could see the thought that he may never see that child again, and the child may never know his father. And, heaven forbid, that little child could be fighting in this same war many years from now. Another soldier was holding a toddler who was playing with the dad's hat brim and laughing, not realizing that daddy is leaving. Saturday, I was priming the inside of our new garage doors and since I can't listen to regular radio music yet I put in Kenny G cd's since Mr. Marge doesn't like KG and he was out running errands. And then, for one song, I got off the ladder and turned the volume up so loud I'm surprised you couldn't hear it in NY. It was KG and Louie Armstrong singing, "It's a Wonderful World". Boy did I cry. I wanted the whole world to hear it too. We stayed away from TV all weekend except last night for the 11 news just to make sure nothing drastic had happened that we didn't know about. And, every time a plane goes over, we look up. It's amazing how much it rattles us now when it was such a routine thing before. That too will pass, I'm sure. Can't say I blame you for the fear on bridges and in tunnels, especially, and looking at other cars, wondering. I'm frightened in my own house and am so fearful just going out to my barbeque when it's dark. When Mr. Marge goes away from 10/6 through 10/13, I don't know how I'll deal with it. I have a friend coming the first weekend and the second I'll be away with another, but during the week I know I'll be at my wits end. Between the garage incident and this, oh, boy!
Marge
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 09:36:40 (PDT)

Can't say boo about Tom Cruise because, as I don't care for him much, I don't know if he is a generous soul - he may be. As for Julia, WOW is she generous. Does the work as well as spends the cash for several charities. The Friday night event was awe inspiring and I agree with you on Wyclef. All I could think of is how he just lost his own father weeks ago. The same week Bono lost his Dad. Loss was felt and the the sorrow was heavy on that telecast. Thought Neil did a great job on "Imagine" too. His voice was never his greatest instrument but conveyed just what Lennon meant by giving peace a chance. I taped the show and watched in again last night.
Tish
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 09:34:03 (PDT)

wow, tish, how heartbreaking. yes, i tear-up at lest once a day, just any reminder will do. the tribute friday night got to me, too...but i had to wonder-- how many of those celebs donated any money of their own? julia roberts and tom hanks alone could donate many, many million. p.s.- wyclef doing "redemption song" was incredible~
curious
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 09:23:57 (PDT)

curious, shed those tears! I all but marinated in the live news coverage for over a week, bawling at will many times within an hour. I still felt the tears would never cease. I get through the day a little easier now, but all it takes is the littlest thing, a face on a Missing poster, hearing God Bless America sung in emotional voices, sometimes it is just a plane overhead that will make me break. I had the infinite joy (that is sarcasm, folks) of going to New Jersey this weekend. We always drive through Manhattan and take the tunnel, but we have been prohibited from doing that. We went over the Verrazanno Bridge instead. I was dizzy with fear the whole ride for all the 9/22 Second Strike rumors I heard. While driving in Staten Island, I stared at the usual traffic beside me, looking for suspicious characters and vehicles with bombs. It took me a moment to realize that one of the trucks beside me was one of four bouncing and slamming along the road. Sounded like a junk heap for all the metal clattering. It was the first of four Sanitation dump trucks with pieces of the WTC. I looked at the driver and was so overcome with emotion. He just looked so sad and nodded to me. What a brutal job! We had our eyes peeled and wondered how much of the debris would show at Fresh Kill when we passed. Like I watched the explosion all over again, is how we felt when we saw all the destroyed fire trucks lined up along the entry way. There was nothing to do but cry. I saw those trucks on the news ALL WEEK blocks from my office, but seeing them again in a field of grass, all blown out and burnt was horrendous. I had a great time later at the party I went to, but the image of the debris in those trucks will last forever. Anyone getting mad yet? I am. Not sure what action to take yet aside from cash donations. Any thoughts? Don't want to boycott any stores based on rumor alone.
Tish
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 08:46:26 (PDT)

Curious, it is still just about impossible to believe what has happened.
Dave
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 07:43:16 (PDT)

i can't believe it has been almost 2 weeks since the terrorist attack-- it does not seem that long. i still feel like i have a huge amount of tears to shed. anyone else feel that way?
curious
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 07:11:06 (PDT)

Ken Sez - I have a bunch of Rick Nelson cds but not the box. He was definitely underrated and with likes of James burton and the Jordanaires, had a great sound. By the way, you old cardplayers did one thing right- you shaved off the mustashes. I haven't done it yet and I always look like I just ate a powdered sugar donut. I guess it's time. Also, Jimbo is no fun to sit next to after his White Castle regimen! When people turn around he always points to me.
The Mont
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 05:00:56 (PDT)

the time is......
Anti-Skell
USA - Monday, September 24, 2001 at 00:11:20 (PDT)

Mary...I guess the "H" fell off the sticker...
Anti-Skell
USA - Sunday, September 23, 2001 at 19:57:48 (PDT)

Jim - Enjoy your White Castle, fries, onion rings, and Pepto Bismol.
Ken Sez
USA - Sunday, September 23, 2001 at 18:34:47 (PDT)

I saw a bumper sticker with a picture of Bill and hillary that said DUAL AIRBAGS
Mary
USA - Sunday, September 23, 2001 at 16:58:34 (PDT)

Mont - Er , uh, well way to go Mont, I think. By the way, a while back we both mentioned that our J. Rivers cd was one of the best we both have. The same goes for my 3 disc set of Rick Nelson. Great set!!! C Ya
Ken Sez
USA - Sunday, September 23, 2001 at 16:55:19 (PDT)

Ken Sez - The main reason that Mont still looks the same today as he did 30 years ago if that whenever we go together to a Mets game we stop at the Bayside White Castle and energize our bodies with 'belly bombers', fries and onion rings.We are scheduled to attend the Mets game a week from Tuesday,I hope the lead in these burgers don't set off the security scanners.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Sunday, September 23, 2001 at 16:52:06 (PDT)

Ken Sez - At least the Koerner, Ray and Glover version is brief but they have many other songs worth listening to. They were 3 white college boys from the 60s who sound blacker than Muddy Waters. By the way, Mr. Jimbo showed me pictures of your recent reunion. Boy you dudes sure got old!. Lucky for me I looked this way 30 years ago, so I haven't changed a bit.
The Mont
USA - Sunday, September 23, 2001 at 16:35:42 (PDT)

Mont - I gotta tell ya - I think Black Betty, as a song, pretty much sucks. Rather listen to almost anything!!
Ken Sez
USA - Sunday, September 23, 2001 at 12:42:20 (PDT)

Glad you like the new format.
WOL Rep
USA - Sunday, September 23, 2001 at 11:58:55 (PDT)

Thanks Boss...Much better
Cheers
USA - Sunday, September 23, 2001 at 08:13:38 (PDT)

Sorry folks! Had to clean house to fix that annoying "Font Problem". All the entries are moved to the archives. You can read them there.
Webmaster
USA - Sunday, September 23, 2001 at 08:04:49 (PDT)

Let's talk about the "decamelization" of the Middle East...
Anti-Skell
USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 22:32:15 (PDT)

Methinks they are going to be "smoking" a lot of camels shortly...and I don't mean cigarettes...
Anti-Skell <light'emupandblow'emup@screamingeagles.com>
USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 22:30:37 (PDT)

Ken Sez --- No there is no danger of my voting republican, I work for a living. Thanks for the defense, same back at you. Although, I don't feel any defense was necessary. I suspect USA has no idea of the mission of the ACLU and therefore his attack is as mindless as his reasoning. I am distressed at how much unamerican speach I am reading on this site. In the America I support we don't attack someone personally because of their beliefs. We may argue with their opinion. We are not our opinions we are the American people.
Bob C
Phx, AZ USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 18:45:20 (PDT)

FOUND THIS ON THE BULLETIN BOARD: I heard that too. I heard it was the Bodega (sp) on Jamaica Ave and 85th Street, Sunnydale, Jamaica and 86th Street, and the bodega on Jamaica Ave and 80th Street. Does anyone else know about these stores, or any others? At present, my family and frinds are boycotting these stores.
Former Woodhavener
Ozone Park, NY USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 18:39:22 (PDT)

c78, are you at all educated beyond the 8th grade?
da woman
USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 17:36:02 (PDT)

C78,THANKS FOR NOTHING
DA MAN <THE GUESS WHO@WOL.COM>
USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 15:23:36 (PDT)

I worked on Hillary's election campaign, so you can thank me for helping to get her into the Senate. You're quite welcome.
c78
NY, NY USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 14:14:19 (PDT)

Originally posted by Itsgoodtobetheking_2001 Originally posted by Nex2nuthin But yeah, xtofero, an excellent suggestion, wouldn't be a bad idea for people to just say hi so we can be reassured that they ARE okay.
test
USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 13:23:04 (PDT)

Hillary is a Nightmare -- Guess the discussion is over because you can't even think of Rick's two greatest deeds.
NY Dem
USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 13:05:17 (PDT)

NY DEM, I WOULD NOT NEED FUNDING FOR VALIUM, I COULD AFFORD IT. YOU PROBABLY DO NOT LIVE ON THE ISLAND THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE A TAINTED OPINION OF LAZIO. MY END OF THIS DISCUSSION IS OVER. IT IS TIME FOR BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS, YOU BORE ME.
HILLARY IS A NIGHTMARE
USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 12:43:32 (PDT)

Hillary Is A Nightmare --- Tsk,Tsk,Tsk, you better watch your blood pressure. Good thing Lazio wasn't elected or he might have cut off the funding for your much needed valium. By the way please leave a us a top ten list of the GREAT things Lazio did while in office,besides appointing many local supporters to taxpayer funded do nothing jobs. The man loses his election and is given a $200,000 a year job as a corporate advisor. Mmmmm-very interesting - I guess the IOU's are being called in by Rick. Don't think I am one sided,just as many Dem's favorite words are me, me and me.
NY Dem
USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 11:07:03 (PDT)

Anti-Skell and Ken Sez - Check out BLACK BETTY by Koerner, Ray & Glover. They make RAM JAM sound like schoolboys.
The Mont
USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 10:10:24 (PDT)

Why is the President not in Washington this weekend? I know teleconfrencing is possible, but wouldn't it be bette for him to be at work this weekend instead of his weekend retreat? He repeats this pattern of big Thursday appearances and then weekends at Shangri-la. And let's NOT spread rumours about people celebrating the attacks. This is the stuff of Urban Legend. Let's only post about such things if we saw them with our own two eyes.
Timmy
USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 08:53:26 (PDT)

NY DEM, you must not be a very intelligent person. I never said if I was dem or rep. You think you know it all & assumed I was rep well let it be known I am a DEMOCRAT!!! I voted for Lazio because in my opinion he did a great job in my hometown here on LI & I still believe he would have been better than Hillary. C78 I can bash whoever I want, kindly MYOB
HILLARY IS A NIGHTMARE
USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 07:54:21 (PDT)

i hate to spread rumors (if indeed it is) but i have heard from a reliable person that he heard from someone else that they were celebrating at the newstand across from carlos pizza...hate to believe it's true, if i lived in ny, i'd ask someone from carlos if it was true
hope it's not true
USA - Saturday, September 22, 2001 at 07:30:33 (PDT)

Great show of music, and it drives home how we have to work together. If we can't get together even on this site, how can we expect the world to get together. In that spirit I take back what I said about pissing two guys off. I shouldn't have said it and I am officially sorry for it.
Ken Sez
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 21:23:29 (PDT)

There's too many people here questioning why anyone voted for whom they wanted. I wouldn't vote for Old Hill if you put a gun to my head, but anyone who did sure had the right to for any goddamn reason they want. Maybe you hadn't noticed but that's part of the underlying theme of this conflict. THEY DON'T LIKE OUR FREEDOMS!
Ken Sez
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 19:15:17 (PDT)

KML85, thanks for the article about the Rockaways on the Bulletin Board. I understand the NYFD is encouraging civilians to go to the funerals of firefighters. With so many other firefighters concentrating on rescue work, they can't attend the funerals. Keep an eye out for services in NY and the surrounding suburbs and try to drop by. It's the least we can do.
c78
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 19:06:57 (PDT)

Can we please stop the Hillary bashing? She is our Senator and she will work tirelessly to help NY recover from the WTC attack. I did not vote for President Bush or Governor Pataki or Mayor Giuliani, but I will support them in this time of need. United we stand, y'all.
c78
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 18:58:38 (PDT)

Hey Never Voted For Hillary--- Did you abuse your voting right and cast your ballot for Lazio only because he was the Republican and not because you thought for 2 seconds who was really the best candidate? Remember a Democrat is much more likely to vote for a Republican than vice versa. That is because we have OPEN minds ,instead of just voting the way Bob Grant tells you.
N Y Dem
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 18:22:44 (PDT)

An open letter to a terrorist written by an 18 year old named Charles Brennan. It is part of his open letter published in a Florida newspaper. ~~~~~~ Well, you hit the World Trade Center, but you missed America. You hit the Pentagon, but you missed America. You used helpless American bodies, to take out other American bodies, but like a poor marksman, you STILL missed America. Why? Because of something you guys will never understand. America isn't about a building or two, not about financial centers, not about military centers, America isn't about a place, America isn't even about a bunch of bodies. America is about an IDEA. An idea, that you can go someplace where you can earn as much as you can figure out how to, live for the most part, like you envisioned living, and pursue Happiness. (No guarantees that you'll reach it, but you can sure try!) Go ahead and whine your terrorist whine, and chant your terrorist litany: "If you can not see my point, then feel my pain." This concept is alien to Americans. We live in a country where we don't have to see your point. But you're free to have one. We don't have to listen to your speech. But you're free to say one. Don't know where you got the strange idea that everyone has to agree with you. There's a spirit that tends to take over people who come to this country, looking for opportunity, looking for liberty, looking for freedom. Even if they misuse it. You guys seem to be incapable of understanding that we don't live in America, America lives in US! American Spirit is what it's called. And killing a few thousand of us, or a few million of us, won't change it. Most of the time, it's a pretty happy-go-lucky kind of Spirit. Until we're crossed in a cowardly manner, then it becomes an entirely different kind of Spirit. Wait until you see what we do with that Spirit, this time. Sleep tight, if you can. We're coming.
Got this from a friend
The Early Edition - Days of Our Lives, USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 17:27:32 (PDT)

Is it true that on 09/11/2001, while the towers were burning and falling down, and while many of the innocent were jumping out of windows as an alternative to being burned alive, that two (2) businesses on Jamaica avenue were celebrating? And that the employees thereof were waving Afghan flags out on the avenue? Did anyone actually see this? Which businesses were they? Does anyone have any info on this at all? Is it true that on 09/11/2001, while the towers were burning and falling down, and while many of the innocent were jumping out of windows as an alternative to being burned alive, that two (2) businesses on Jamaica avenue were celebrating? And that the employees thereof were waving Afghan flags out on the avenue? Did anyone actually see this? Which businesses were they? Does anyone have any info on this at all?
FOUND THIS ON THE BULLETIN BOARD
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 17:12:52 (PDT)

Is it true that on 09/11/2001, while the towers were burning and falling down, and while many of the innocent were jumping out of windows as an alternative to being burned alive, that two (2) businesses on Jamaica avenue were celebrating? And that the employees thereof were waving Afghan flags out on the avenue? Did anyone actually see this? Which businesses were they? Does anyone have any info on this at all? Is it true that on 09/11/2001, while the towers were burning and falling down, and while many of the innocent were jumping out of windows as an alternative to being burned alive, that two (2) businesses on Jamaica avenue were celebrating? And that the employees thereof were waving Afghan flags out on the avenue? Did anyone actually see this? Which businesses were they? Does anyone have any info on this at all?
FOUND THIS ON THE BULLETIN BOARD
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 17:12:50 (PDT)

ALSO A DEM, YOU VOTED FOR HILLARY BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO SEE A STRONG WOMAN ROLE MODEL IN OFFICE?? SHAME ON YOU, I AM A WOMAN TOO & KNOW YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR WHO THE BEST CANDIDATE IS REGARDLESS OF THEIR GENDER! THANK GOD SHE DIDN'T RUN FOR PRESIDENT!!!! VOTING IS A PRIVILEGE, PLEASE DO'T ABUSE IT.
NEVER VOTED FOR HILLARY
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 17:04:40 (PDT)

Ken Sez---a filthier bunch of camel swizzlers the world has never seen....
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 15:31:43 (PDT)

Curious...I think it was a reference to Hillary the Hillarious' dour,lacksadaisical look on her weatherbeaten face that most are referring to...her,"My hubby is sticking it to an intern in front of the entire nation" facial expression...Also, is there a connection between your "airing it out" and your reference to His Bushiness probably sporting a tremendous woody last night ??? Just joking...What we must all focus on is the fact that the whirling dervishes have stopped whirling, turbans are tarnished,Allah is nowhere to be seen,all camels have fled to Turkey,and the Swami Bent Salamis that caused this episode are going to pay dearly for what they have done...A.S.S.Missle Works has just recieved a large Dept. of Defense contract...hehehe
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 15:30:25 (PDT)

Moby Dick was/is far superior to Moby Grape...So is Black Betty from Ram Jam...
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 15:21:08 (PDT)

Anti-Skell - Actually, I think the only thing that they manufacture in Afghanistan (wonder how many of us could have spelled Afghanistan two weeks ago?) is dirt. To their credit though, they wear it well.
Ken Sez
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 15:16:45 (PDT)

Mont - Yeah, I saw that, figured it was just something within the bowels of the system that went wrong. Stick aroung, i'm sure I pissed off a couple people today, the fireworks should be fun!!
Ken Sez
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 15:09:21 (PDT)

Prescott are you a blind person?I never thought rolling ones eyes would be taken for a somber look.
I guess i watched a different presidential address
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 13:52:06 (PDT)

Is Senator Rodham-Clinton expected to Cow-tow to the Man Who Lives in the White House? Last night I just thought she looked somber. She (like me) was expecting a war address, not a pep rally. I guess she (like me) forgot that The Man Who Occupies the White House is an Overgrown Ivy League Male Cheerleader, and not actually qualified for the job his father's friends gave him last year. I'll say this for him. He didn't flub his lines (other than Ooohbekistan). That's why everyone was so impressed by the speech. You can't give him credit for the words, those came from Mary Matalin or Karen Hughes or somebody who actually has read a book or two in their life. But other than smirking in congratulatory pride, he really didn't mess up last night. A B- performance by a D+ caliber man. Well done, Prince George.
Prescott
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 13:28:48 (PDT)

As a voting Republican, I was proud of the speech that Dubya gave last night. I think it hit the nail right on the head. I am, however reluctant to elevate him to Mt. Rushmore status, as so many talk show hosts, and even TV personalities have done, simply on the strength of the speech. Time will tell. This is a good start though! To the fellow, a few posts back, who suggested that Bob C. and his fellow ACLU'rs hop the next plane to Afghanistan, I've got this to say to you. I've had the good fortune to know Bob for some 35 yrs, and i've never known anyone that was more of a Patriot. We agree, almost never on anything political, and I wouldn't carry an ACLU card, but I would rather that he had my back, than you, in any war, at any time. And Curious, yes you do have the right to call your President, in this time of crisis, an idiot, just as you have the right to be one!!
Ken Sez
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 13:23:52 (PDT)

chill- whoever you are. just voicing an opinion....
curious
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 13:13:54 (PDT)

Ken Sez- I think there is a culprit recycling my old posts!But my Moby Grape comment still goes.
The Mont
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 13:13:11 (PDT)

I don't have to live with it.........I don't live with you or know you....Thank GOD
I can speak my free American mind too <ballbuster@curioushouse.com>
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 13:10:44 (PDT)

Hey, has anyone read 'Spider Stumbled' yet?
woody
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 13:10:12 (PDT)

More than a woman to me........
The Bee Gees
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 13:09:21 (PDT)

btw- chris told me this morning, as he was fetching me another cup of coffee in bed, that he loved that i spoke my STRONG FEMALE MIND-- live with it.....
curious
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 13:05:36 (PDT)

She WAS more then a woman too me..And yes i know how to use plurals..Sorry for the typo's
Busy at work and don't need my boss mad at me in this type of job market
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:59:11 (PDT)

hey- i have the right to call dubya an idiot!
That is why curious loves AMERICA
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:54:47 (PDT)

Is Hillary more than one womAn? Do democrats know anything about pluralization?
Not NY Dem
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:47:37 (PDT)

No curious.....That titles already reserved for you.
Christopher Walken would be disappointed in you
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:47:05 (PDT)

i think he probably had the best erection of his life last night-- that was the smirk AND the wink--- power does turn a president on!
curious
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:45:01 (PDT)

OK all those praising George W.'s speech. What is the US going to do? Who are we at war with? Oh, I forgot, terrorism.
Tell Me
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:40:24 (PDT)

KEN SEZ-YOUR TASTE IN MUSIC AS BAFFLING AS EVER. 8:05 BY MOBY GRAPE WAS ONE OF THE 10 GREATEST SONGS OF ALL-TIME. WALK AWAY RENEE BT THE FOUR TOPS IS BETTER THAN LEFT BANKE (YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE WORDS!) SORRY I WASN'T IN TOWN WHEN YOU WERE HERE, HAD TO GO TO CALIF. TO SEE THE METS LOSE IN S.D & L.A.!HOPE YOUR VISITS WILL BECOME ANNUAL EVENTS. HEAR I HAVE MORE HAIR THAN YOU, BUT THEN I ALWAYS DID! RICKY A. 'THE MONT' MADISON
mont
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:38:31 (PDT)

he smirked because he's an idiot....
curious
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:37:53 (PDT)

I voted for her cause i really thought she was for education....plus as a women,i wanted to see a strong women role model in power.
Voting the other way next time..Also a NY Dem
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:32:13 (PDT)

I caught the smirk and the wink.....I heard on tv that it was to his wife....It was one of those "Honey,i'm on a roll things".
Try another one
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:27:39 (PDT)

To those of you complaining about Hillary Clinton, she would not be in office if the Republicans had put up someone with a real platform ,not the whinning Rick Lazio who only worried about how the cute curl on his head looked during the debates. Even on 80% Republican Staten Island, Hillary received almost 40% of the votes.
N Y Dem
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:27:11 (PDT)

Here you go, What made you vote for her the 1st time. i don't think anyone who voted for her as any right to say anything about her. You were all fools to vote for her. Folks don't deny you voted for because she won & she couldn't have done it without you! She is not a New Yorker & should not be representing us! I obviously voted the other way.
how could you vote for hillary?
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:26:07 (PDT)

Here you go, What made you vote for her the 1st time. i don't think anyone who voted for her as any right to say anything about her. You were all fools to vote for her. Folks don't deny you voted for because she won & she couldn't have done it without you! She is not a New Yorker & should not be representing us! I obviously voted the other way.
how could you vote for hillary?
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:25:01 (PDT)

There once was a man named Oscar...Oscar,Oscar...OOOOscar
Felix
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:24:27 (PDT)

ok - but did anyone notice the smirk on dubya's face sometimes? (i did catch some of the speech, here and there). i am behind my country all the way, but the man is still a puppet.
curious
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:23:08 (PDT)

Anti-skell,I was warned about her from coworkers and friends.I took it as "strong women bashing" and didn't listen.Next time i'll know better.
Voting the other way next time
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:22:07 (PDT)

Oscar? It's me!
George
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:21:21 (PDT)

Curious,I posted this last night.Everyone at work said the same things i posted.Kinda explains it all...except i left out the rolling of the eyes." Was it just me or did it look like Hillary Clinton's facial expression's show she didn't agree with President Bush?What was with her half hearted claps?She sits next to Chuck and doesn't shake the Presidents hand as he makes his rounds.Chuck shook his hand but Hillary was no where to be seen.I'll remember that next time she's up for election.I hope everyone else does too." Voting the other way next time
Here you go
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:19:06 (PDT)

Is that the George from snowy Jersey?
Oscar
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 12:05:07 (PDT)

I tell ya, if there's a DOLLAR to be made from this tragedy, it's sure being made outside. I've encountered DOZENS of street vendors along 48th St, 5th Ave, 6th Ave, etc.....and they're doing a brisk business. Selling overpriced flags, pins, and the extremely tasteless WTC T-SHIRT. My suggestion: Go to your local VFW or American Legion and purchase a flag......that way, you know where your funds are going (a releif fund) instead of some vendors pockets.
George
Jersey Shore Area , NJ USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 11:56:30 (PDT)

Yes It was a good speach, to bad he didn't write it, But I
Think he is doing a good job
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 11:06:49 (PDT)

anti: that is what makes me ME-- now, please, do tell what ms. rodham did/said/whatever that is causing this backlash! p.s.- i knew there was no flight #33- what a terrible joke. and i just heard that there is looting going on in the shops under WTC 5--- god help us all.....
curious
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 11:05:23 (PDT)

terorists suck...it is an eerie coincedence..but that's all it is....neither of the planes that crashed into the wtc, or the other 2 aircraft for that matter, were numbered "flight 33"
you could look it up
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 10:35:44 (PDT)

terorists suck...it is an eerie coincedence..but that's all it is....neither of the planes that crashed into the wtc, or the other 2 aircraft for that matter, were numbered "flight 33"
you could look it up
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 10:35:25 (PDT)

Marge---hope all is well...thanks for the kind sentiments the other day...thanks to all...this will all work out...
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 10:21:08 (PDT)

Curious...there are times when you shouldn't be so....curious...
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 10:19:01 (PDT)

His Bushiness seems to be on track...nice speech...give him a chance to carry the big stick...let's see if can stick it to them,as well as shtick it to them...Talibans have even less friends than Hillary the Hillarious...
Anti-Skell <rahrahsisboombah@carpetbomb.com>
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 10:12:37 (PDT)

Ken Sez----Kevlar turbans and camel shields are now being manufactured in Afghanistan...
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 10:07:36 (PDT)

ACLU = American Communist Lovers Union
Anti-Skell <consevativismisthewaytogo@dismantleaclu.com>
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 10:06:24 (PDT)

In all fairness to Hillary the Hillarious,a good percentage of you folks wanted her, now you have her...you ought to drop her on Afghanistan...
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 10:02:31 (PDT)

Liberals,shmiberals...
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 10:00:01 (PDT)

i didn't watch the speech last night--- just what did ms. rodham do????
curious
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 09:26:02 (PDT)

Does anyone, even true George W. supporters, have any more clue today than yesterday as to what, when and if anything will be done? Nice pep talk though seems to have elevated the speech to one of the all time greats. At least for today.
Rodney
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 09:17:32 (PDT)

I agree with True American, Spread the word Wodhaveners This lady Hillary was outrageous ,during a time when we needed solidarity. She is a Witch and a selfish BITCH. And the hell with the ACLU, how would they feel if the plane hit their headquarters or they lost loved ones. They are seperated from the attack and these are hostile times.We have alot to lose and we all must stand up and fight any way we can.And that includes backing up our president.
Vanessa G.
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 09:05:34 (PDT)

Hillary Clinton was absolutely disgusting. This is a lady who simply has her own agenda. She does not care about anyone or anything except her own political career. These are times for everyone to stick together when the world is watching and she was despicable rolling her eyes and not caring much about anything.
True American
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 08:58:46 (PDT)

Hillary Clinton was absolutely disgusting. This is a lady who simply has her own agenda. She does not care about anyone or anything except her own political career. These are times for everyone to stick together when the world is watching and she was despicable rolling her eyes and not caring much about anything.
True American
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 08:58:44 (PDT)

No matter whether you are republican or Democrat, I hope everyone can see this country is much better off in these type of hostile times with President Bush than Gore. These times are for serious people not bleeding heart liberals..And if anyone ever votes for Hillary for anything , you get what you deserve.How selfish is this lady..She was disgusting and a disgrace...
Nostalgic
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 08:54:47 (PDT)

Good evening my fellow Americans. First, I want to pass on my condolences to the people of New York and all Americans that are hurting in this tragic time. You can rest assured that anything and everything that can be done to assure the safety of our country will be done. This is the greatest country in the world and we will get through this trying time. Now is the time for all people to set aside our petty differences and show the world that no one or nothing can destroy the fortitude of the American people. To the people responsible for today's tragedy, I say this: Are you f*cking kidding me? Are the turbans on your heads wrapped too tight? Have you gone too long without a bath? Do you not know who you are f*cking with? Americans are so hungry to kill, that we shoot at each other every day. We will relish that opportunity for new targets for our aggression. Have you forgotten history? What happened to the last people that started f*cking around with us? Remember the little yellow bastards over in Japan? We slapped them all over the Pacific and roasted about 2 million of them in their own back yard. That's what we in America call a big ass barbecue. Ever seen Texas on a map? Ever wonder why it's so big? Because we wanted it that way. Mexico started jacking around with the Alamo and now they cut our lawns. England? We sent them packing. Ask your buddy Saddam about f*cking with the good 'ole USA. The only reason he got away the first time is because it's too hard to shoot someone when you're doubled over laughing at them. Our soldiers aren't trained to laugh and shoot at the same time. Now he couldn't stop a pack of cub scouts from taking over his sh*tty little country. Trust us, Afghanistan will end up a giant kitty litter box. Go ahead and try to hide, Bin Laden. There's not a hole deep enough or a mountain high enough that's going to keep your camel riding a**es safe. We will bomb every inch of the country that harbors him, his camps and any place that looks and even smells like he was there. Hell, we might even drop a few bombs on people that have pissed us off in the past. This is America. We kick ass. This is what we do. Go ahead and laugh now, but the Tomahawks are coming and very soon we will smoke your sorry a**es. God bless America!
If I were President George W. Bush's Speech Writer
(Anonymous), USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 07:52:24 (PDT)

Help! Can't find my Wingdings.
Lost
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 07:51:30 (PDT)

Well,Rodney - As a staunch supporter of GWB, I was thrilled by his speech. As always he said what needed to be said without embellishing it with unnecessary twaddle. I am also very happy with the Democrats who so far are showing tremendous support. So much support, that I will suspend wearing my Sore Loserman sweatshirt until further notice, replacing it with my knockoff WMCA Good Guys sweatshirt.
The Mont
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 07:45:26 (PDT)

Curious...I got it in an email...scarry stuff!...I suggest everyone try it! If you have Microsoft Word, type in Q33 NY make sure it is capital Q33 space capital NY (the flight number of one of the airplanes that crashed into the WTC). Then, change font size to 72 and change the font to Wingdings. (Not Wingdings 2 or 3, just Wingdings) You will not believe what you see!!!!!!!!! Pretty Scary!
Terrorists Suck
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 07:24:39 (PDT)

NEVER FORGET!
Remembering
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 07:21:25 (PDT)

Terrorists Suck....where did that come from? it is bizarre.
curious
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 06:21:33 (PDT)

Review came out today- NY Daily News: "I hope Mariah Carey's Prozac has kicked in. She's going to need all the help she can get to withstand the reviews for her acting debut in "Glitter." This is the worst performance by a pop star in a dramatic role since Madonna suited up for "Shanghai Surprise."
Anyone got directions to the Psych Center?
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 06:14:38 (PDT)

Because of the cuts in defense spending during the "Clinton" years, we are far from ready for a war. Even if we put a ton of money in it now, we are not even close to where we were defensively 10 years ago. I think the slogan should be God HELP America, because this is going to be bad
Capt. Who KNOWS
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 05:51:30 (PDT)

I'd like to hear what the Mont thought about the speech.
Rodney
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 05:50:25 (PDT)

If you have Microsoft Word, type in Q33 NY make sure it is capital Q33 space capital NY (the flight number of one of the airplanes that crashed into the WTC). Then, change font size to 72 and change the font to Wingdings. (Not Wingdings 2 or 3, just Wingdings) You will not believe what you see!!!!!!!!! Pretty Scary!
Terrorists Suck
READ THIS!!!!!!, USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 05:46:52 (PDT)

Welcome To A New Day.....Enjoy it, and try to smile :)
NIGHT OWL
USA - Friday, September 21, 2001 at 00:04:42 (PDT)

This card carrying member of the ACLU is fully supportive of the war against terrorism.
Tommy
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 20:55:04 (PDT)

STOP THE BASHING.....IT GETS US NOWHERE TO FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER
PLEASE STOP IT
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 20:31:42 (PDT)

Bob C,Sorry to hear that.If we had guys like you,ron kirby and the rest of the ACLU in charge of the goverment we would now be part of the U.S.S.R.Please do us all a favor and board the next plane to France or Afghanastan, and take the rest of the bleeding hearts of the ACLU with.
ACLU=screw everyone thats not a minorities <USAUSA@USA.COM>
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 20:30:06 (PDT)

Bobby H, what's more important is standing by what you believe. Those who support war, anywhere should be willing to fight themselves. If you oppose war, you have other options (constrained of course by laws).
Jack
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 20:24:16 (PDT)

Bob C - Glad to see that your coming over to the other side. Can I assume that you will be voting Republican from now on. I'll join you on the voting lines. Ken Sez
Ken Sez
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 20:22:20 (PDT)

Jack,What's worst.....Running away from your duty to your country?......or.......Doing your duty to your country,in whatever capacity?I'm a moderate liberal and you hard core liberals are pushing me more and more to the right every second you open your mouth.
Bobby H
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 20:21:15 (PDT)

Anti-Skell - You make sense (that's what worries me the most). As for Micks parachute, don't worry, even if it doesnt open he's probably wearing a helmet (never could figure that out). Does anyone else out there think that maybe Prez gave a pretty good speech, and sounded like he is on top of it.
Ken Sez
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 20:03:12 (PDT)

I am a lifelong Democrat. Proud card carrying member of the ACLU. I voted for Clinton twice and am proud of it. However, I was very impressed by our President tonight. I feel he said all the right things with the proper emphasis to reassure the country and warn our enemies. Well done Mr. President. Let's stop living in the past and move forward and get a very ugly job done in as mature manner as possible. Name calling does no one any good.
Bob C
Phx, AZ USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 19:57:53 (PDT)

Hillary looked wicked! The man I felt sorry for was George Pataki. That poor guy looked exhausted and beaten down. Rudy looked like "a Rock". How could you not feel proud of that pregnant widow or the fireman and policeman. I was glad the President didn't call them by name but showed the shield instead.
God Bless America, it's gonna be tough
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 19:49:10 (PDT)

I was glued to the TV to watch what the President had to say I was impressed by his words and his leadership. After attending the funeral mass for one of our FIREMAN today I don't feel as strong as he would like Americans to feel. This Fireman's little girl sat beside mine in pre-school. His wife goes to bed alone tonight and every night. She can't ask her husband to leave a couple of bucks in the morning for McDonald's like I have. She's not concerned tonight about her children remembering their spelling words for a test tomorrow. She's not planning how to get two kids to soccer and dance on Saturday. I don't feel strong, I feel afraid, sad and numb. I hope the rest of the country can carry New York for as long as it has to. It will take longer than any war for us to get over this loss. Loss of life, loss of Mothers, Fathers, Brothers, Sisters and children. Loss of innocence in our children. That young woman (and many others) doesn't have to assure her children that they are safe from war. She has to assure them they will be safe without their Dad. Sobering I know but with all the opinions shown here and bashing going on we should remember who really suffers these dark days.
Sad
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 19:44:51 (PDT)

Why don't we give "His Bushiness" a chance to handle the situation he is faced with...He just might do a good job...
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 19:41:55 (PDT)

Ken Sez---It is more important to focus on what is deemed to be important,than that which is deemed to be unintelligent drivel...hehehe ...Such as, do you think Micksterpotamus's parachute was manufactured at A.S.S. ???
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 19:38:03 (PDT)

Voting the other way next time----while I am no fan of Hillary the Hillarious,I would think that her facial expressions have more to do with living with Wild Bill,her illustrious husband.That sorry excuse for a man would sour anyone's puss...Let us continue to pillory Hillary...
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 19:33:14 (PDT)

Clinton opposed the Vietnam war and exercised his democratic rights to protest it. Bush supported the war, just so long as other people had to fight it. He exercised his father's influence to hide from it. Now, that is a big difference. But now he is in charge, and I can support him. I just don't like to read the constant Clinton bashing even after all these years. The GOP just has an obsession with him that refuses to fade, no matter how much time goes by.
Jack
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 19:23:30 (PDT)

Wasn't Bush in the reserves,while Clinton was protesting and token but not inhaling in London?
Big Difference
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 19:08:33 (PDT)

Was it just me or did it look like Hillary Clinton's facial expression's show she didn't agree with President Bush?What was with her half hearted claps?She sits next to Chuck and doesn't shake the Presidents hand as he makes his rounds.Chuck shook his hand but Hillary was no where to be seen.I'll remember that next time she's up for election.I hope everyone else does too.
Voting the other way next time
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 19:03:40 (PDT)

Keep Cool is right - that's all i'm saying - it's a little too early to be maligning the prez's integrity, intelligence, capability or any of that stuff. It's not important that you don't like the way I say it! It's important that we stand behind him at this time!!!
Ken Sez
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 19:01:29 (PDT)

Wait a second. It's killing me to say this at a time like this, but our current President kept his ass just as far away from Vietnam as his precessor. Actually Alabama is further from Vietnam than London is, now that I think about it.
Douglas
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 17:56:29 (PDT)

Time's up... our President is about to speak. It was Admiral Farragut, at the outset of the Battle of Mobile Bay. (That was during the Civil War.) And the "torpedos" were actually mines, in the parlance of the day. PS-I'll give the money anyway.
Robby
Ozone Park, NY USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 17:54:35 (PDT)

Guess some people haven't been listening to everyone say let's stick together. Right away you're all attacking the President. Would you prefer to have Clinton still in office? Mr. Draft Dodger who couldn't even salute? Let's give the guy a break. I'm noticing none of you asked for his job. Some here were throwing darts at the Mayor not long ago. Not too many praising the job he's done. Every person trying to keep peace in our Country is a hero.
Keep cool
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 17:53:42 (PDT)

I sure can be - If someone is knockin the Prez before he even has a chance to do anything. It''s a little premature to be commin' down on the Prez. in this situation, don't you think???
Ken Sez
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 17:52:59 (PDT)

Is this "Ken Sez" character always so obnoxious?
Bob
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 17:47:12 (PDT)

God Bless You All!!! I hope whatever he decides to say tonight puts a little peace to your minds. If I don't come back tomorrow (Friday), try to have a nice weekend all. Take care. Bye
Melissa <msmush1111@aol.com>
Long Island, NY USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 17:36:04 (PDT)

I will give 20 bucks to the Firefighters fund if anyone identifies the author of the "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead..." quote in the next hour. (It's 748 in NY now). And no, it's not Tom Petty.
Robby
Ozone Park, NY USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 16:47:03 (PDT)

Wolr's - click on to this website - Http.//www.doubtlessdesigns.net
Ken Sez
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 16:13:57 (PDT)

Hey Dave - That's quite a ringing endorsement for our Prez. - Sounds like you must have an inside line to the White House. No? Well, why don't we wait and see what he actually has to say tonight!!! It might make sense. And Jim, i'm a little suprised at you. Find me the last time that EVERYONE was satisfied, anytime, anyway, anywhere, in regards to anything!
Ken Sez
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 16:09:19 (PDT)

Micksterpotamus....gracias, and I hope your parachute was manufactured at A.S.S...
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 14:31:43 (PDT)

Don't think that the former Director of the CIA has no say in all this...
Barbara
Daddy Bush, State of Emergency TEXAS - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 13:21:29 (PDT)

"Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!"
sally
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 12:53:51 (PDT)

I'm afraid that George W. doesn't have a clue what to do... and that what gets done will result from who wins out among his cabinet and staff
Dave
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 12:08:08 (PDT)

He does seem like he wants to tell us just what we want to hear ... but the problem is weather he has an effective game plan that will make us all satisfied.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 11:54:33 (PDT)

what do you think he will tell us? he seems hell bent on feeding our appetite for revenge.
curious
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 11:39:36 (PDT)

It may not be good for private citizens to know all the government's plans ... but after George W's speech tonight I hope we can go to bed with a little idea of what the next week,month or years may have in store for us.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 10:43:29 (PDT)

Tish: You made me smile! And, we may do just that.
Marge
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 08:32:06 (PDT)

I feel like I am posting in the public forum section with this weird font.
Confused
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 08:12:37 (PDT)

Jerry Falwell is an ass.
Disturbed
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 07:55:39 (PDT)

Marge, I may have a way with words but you are very kind and bring reason to the chaos here. I am 100% with you on the fact of unfinished business here in the US. I am concerned (!) about the rumours of more attacks this Saturday, but I guess that is what they want - terrorists terrify. I used to work in the health care field and have talked and counseled many patients who had their lives spared after fighting a usually fatal disease or event. One common thing to each of them is that the life they have left is precious and lived to each moment in the fullest way possible. Aren't they brave? They know what it is to be that close to a loss and make the most of what they have. No one is going to coast after this week. We will kiss and hug a little longer, forgive faster, and wait in lines with little annoyance. You learn what matters most and you run with what is left. Some days we will even dance. Marge, you go and swing your partner and kick up your heels the next chance you get....even if it is a long slow dance in front of the fireplace at home!
Tish
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 07:41:14 (PDT)

Tish: You do have a great way with words. I think too that we all have a worry in the back of our minds as to what these people will do on our home land again. We have to know they are not finished here yet. We can only hope they are, but that may be my dreams. Heard something very nice. New York and Rome are possibly both going to be in the bidding for the 2012 Olympics. Rome announced that if they are in the bidding with NY, they will drop out and let NY have it so that unity can be brought to the City. We can only hope that all the good that is here today will not diminish as time passes.
Marge
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 07:18:21 (PDT)

Marge, we are all crying with you. Talking with a good friend yesterday and he commented that the worst thing in this is that there is no end. The pain and sorrow comes in waves, just like the bad news of people lost. The weight of our country mourning, valiantly trying to go on, and making the plans of war is taking a toll on all of us. We have so many "happy" events in the next few weeks...a christening, a wedding, two birthday parties and family reunion but no one's heart is in it anymore. We will attend and I bet cry too, when we see the people near and dear, cherishing them all the more for this living hell we were thrust upon. I am in the music business and haven't played a single thing in this past week, but I know music has been a comfort in the past and we all could use that now. Saturday we are going to put on a brave face for the child in our life and press on to the family get together. That very thing is the normalcy that will heal us the most. I am glad you and Mr. Marge have each other to share all things, and hope you can take some joy in anything you share this weekend.
Tish
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 07:03:58 (PDT)

You know...overall I guess I'm healing from this mourning we are all sharing a little every day, but last night Mr. Marge and I, again, cried ourselves to sleep. This morning I watched what they call the 911 of the Marines, saying goodbye to their families. Watching some holding their infants and small children in their arms. One putting his infant down into the carriage and you could see the goodbye in his eyes. And that tiny child sleeping soundlessly, oblivious to the fact that he may never see his father or, may someday be fighting in the same war his father is going to. Again, my tears flowed. Watching another dad hold his sun while the boy laughed and played with daddy's hat brim. Again, not knowing what's going on. Everyday there is something that rips your heart out and stomps on it. I think about my own 9 yr old nephew and my best friend's little 2 yr old grandson and already I worry about them. This war could very well go on until they are old enough to be in this god awful war we are about to enter into. I know I'm sounding very bleak and sad and hopeless right now, and again I am crying. And someday I'll listen to music again, something I never can do when I've been in mourning in the past. But, it's really nice to be able to share these feelings with friends. Thanks for listening guys.
Marge
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 06:38:09 (PDT)

Mikser: Safe journey! And, thanks for sharing what I'm guessing is a fireman's creed.
Marge
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 06:28:17 (PDT)

Anti-Skell my heart go's out to you and may your heart be comforted by the fact that they went out heros in the line of duty .I to know what that means to loose like that.I am going to fly today and as you can imagine im not all that comfortable but hopefully god will guide my flight.Hope to see ya soon.....For you and the ones you lost : When i am called to duty,God,whenever flames may rage,give me the strength to save some life ,whatever be its age.Help me embrace a little child before it is to late,or save an older person from the horror of that fate.Enable me to be alert and hear the weakest shout,and quicly,and efficiently to put the fire out.I want to fill my calling,and to give the best in me,to gaurd my every neighbor and protect his property.And if,according to my fate,i am to loose my life,please bless with your protecting hand my family,friends and wife.For all those at the Trade Center.GOD BLESS YOU>
Mickster <SPEEDO736@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 01:25:55 (PDT)

confused....sad because of the losses, but happy for the kind words of my fellow WOLers...
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2001 at 00:16:14 (PDT)

Why has skell used a frown and a smiley face?
Confused
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 22:46:45 (PDT)

I hope you are saying that Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are unamerican jerks.
Bob C
Phx, AZ USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 22:38:28 (PDT)

AMERICA AMERICA GOD SHED HIS GRACE ON THEE AND CROWN THY GOOD WITH BROTHERHOOD FROM SEA TO SHINING SEA! There are many, many people putting themselves in harms way to protect us. Be good to one another and correct those who aren't.
God Bless America
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 19:06:41 (PDT)

Anti-Skell,I'm sorry to hear that.Stay well
B
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 14:22:57 (PDT)

:^( :^)
Anti-Skell
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 14:18:57 (PDT)

oh--- i thought he was using the new font to make me totally lose my freakin' mind. p.s.- hi tish
curious
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 13:21:32 (PDT)

Is that the same Joey from snowy Jersey that's been posting? Been looking for you.
Farah
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 13:17:55 (PDT)

I am here curious. I guess the webmaster is using this new font to save room for all the pictures he is posting.
Dave
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 13:14:45 (PDT)

Here
Tish
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 12:50:22 (PDT)

where is everyone?
curious
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 12:49:16 (PDT)

To Got It-Good! I think you miss the point. "I" am remembering. Trying to get those 2 words out there to stay. NEVER FORGET.
Still remembering
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 09:14:01 (PDT)

You wouldn't have to remember if you never forgot!!!
Got it-Good
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 08:46:19 (PDT)

The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked.I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way--all of them who have tried to secularize America--I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'
Jerry Falwell
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 07:47:54 (PDT)

NEVER FORGET!
Remembering
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 06:55:25 (PDT)

Anti-Skell and Buster: Our hearts are heavy with sadness for those brave people and the all those lost last week. What would we do without the brave ones. What will all those left behind do without all those gone...
Marge
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 06:53:32 (PDT)

Here's an idea: Have all the banks across America redirect their ATM fees to a disaster releif fund. It would raise millions, and everyone would be contributing to some degree. God Bless America, and God LOVE all the members of the FDNY, NYPD, NYDS, EMS & COUNTLESS others who have been working night & day helping others. This will NEVER be forgotten.
George
Jersey Shore Area, NJ USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 05:59:48 (PDT)

Buster and Anti, I am so heartily sorry for you both and the families they left behind. They will be heroes always. No matter the age, this is a new generation of people who will NEVER forget. Pray for those still doing the work too. I know some and it is grim and daunting. If you think this will all pass by and no one will remember the heroes we do today, check out some of the toy web sites. Under the section of REAL AMERICAN HEROES, there are police, fireman and American soldiers. Saw some of the ball games last night and marveled at the number of children at the stadiums. They looked as serious and affected as the adults. Someday, instead of all the action figures and computer games that stir kid's minds, tales will be told of the bravest and the best. I am so sorry for your loss.
Tish
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2001 at 05:56:22 (PDT)

Anti: I knew 5 FFs and 2 P.O.s They all died doing what they loved. Rescuing people, running into, instead of away from danger, and most of all be unsung when it came to being heros. I cry with you.
Buster
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 21:57:42 (PDT)

Anti-Skell - Sorry to hear that this hit home so hard to you! There will be brighter days ahead. We just gotta get to them, somehow.
Ken Sez
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 21:25:10 (PDT)

OMG.....ANTI.... I am so sorry. I can't believe you knew so many. my heart oges out to you and their families and friends. e mail me if ya need to talk,ok sweetie. take care. God Bless us all!!!
melissa verdi <msmush1111@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 20:53:31 (PDT)

B, & Terrorists Suck----I saw the lists on the Post's website yesterday...on the front page...couldn't access them...Today,however, they are viewable...I knew 15 of them...I also get Fire Department publications...Thanks for the info and the offer....
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 19:52:25 (PDT)

DOES ANYONE LIKE THIS NEW FONT???
I THINK ITS HARD ON THE EYES
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 16:06:40 (PDT)

The Dave Matthews Band has responded to the current emotional climate in light of last week's terrorist attacks and will not issue "When The World Ends" as a single, instead planning to release the title track from its current album, Everyday. A spokesperson for the group confirmed that the band has "switched gears" and is readying "Everyday" for release. At the same time, the spokesperson defends "When The World Ends," calling it a "positive, goofy, uplifting song." "When The World Ends" was expected to go for adds at radio next week. There is no date yet for the release of "Everyday."
This will make one person smile
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 13:09:50 (PDT)

Hello Anti-skell,Just go to the link and the names are there.I pray that you don't know anyone on the list.
B
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 12:41:53 (PDT)

Skell...The front page of yesterday's NY Post has them. (the names of the fire fighters) I know some were probably your friends. Would you like me to send it to you?
Terrorists suck
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 11:55:07 (PDT)

On a lighter note, here is a site that you can find some great books on Old Woodhaven (no, it's not "Spider Stumbled")....
JJ
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 11:11:09 (PDT)

Numerologists must be having a field day with a very eerie report making its way around the Internet. It starts with the date of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon: Sept. 11, or 9/11 — 9 + 1 + 1 = 11. Sept. 11 is the 254th day of the year — 2 + 5 + 4 = 11. After Sept. 11, there are 111 days left in the year. The Twin Towers, standing side by side, always looked like the number 11. The first plane to hit the towers was American's Flight 11. New York was the 11th state to join the Union. There are 11 letters in New York City, Afghanistan and The Pentagon. There were 92 people aboard Flight 11 — 9 + 2 = 11. There were 65 people on American's Fight 77 — 6 + 5 = 11. And if all that weren't enough, the groundbreaking for the Pentagon is said to have occurred on Sept. 11, 1941.
Daily News (Mitchell Fink) Reports
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 11:02:27 (PDT)

Wiseguy- Been trying to call you, call me when you get back.
Cathy
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 10:27:31 (PDT)

Robby, you have a great head on those 24 year old shoulders. Wonderful post!
Regular Ol'Timer
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 08:27:31 (PDT)

A Parking lot would be a significant upgrade. Afghanastan is a woefully poor country that has been at war for most of my life time. (I'm 24 years old.) They defeated invaders from the British Empire in the 19th Century and from the Soviet Union in the 20th Century. Now, those countries gave up because they were fighting for territorial expansion rather than self-defense. We have been attacked, and we will achieve our goals. But it is better to respect your enemy for his capabilities than to disdain him for his weaknesses. Let's not take anything for granted other than the fact that the unity of this country behind our Armed Forces has never been more important. We'll save the name calling and boasting for AFTER the job is done.
Robby
Ozone Park, NY USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 08:07:16 (PDT)

Main Entry: ji·had. Pronunciation: ji-'häd, chiefly British -'had. Function: noun. Etymology: Arabic jihAd Date: 1869 1 : a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty 2 : a crusade for a principle or belief
They may have started it but we will finish it!
USA, USA USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 07:07:49 (PDT)

I finally agree with Anti-Skell....Let,s turn Afghanistan into a parking lot...Turn the mountains into plains. And remember Wodhavenites...We didn,t lose lives---We gained ANGELS
Nostalgic <keep the faith>
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 06:48:22 (PDT)

From the NY Times today: The spike in the writer's popularity appeared to have been fueled by the Internet, where Web sites and e- mail messages promoted the idea that he had foreseen Tuesday's tragic events. One e-mail message that was widely circulated last week combines sentence fragments from different passages in Nostradamus's writings with words that were not his, to create a provocative text whose implication was impossible to mistake: "In the year of the new century and nine months/ From the sky will come a great King of Terror," the e-mail message read. "The sky will burn at forty-five degrees. Fire approaches the great new city/ In the city of York, there will be a great collapse/ 2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos/ while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb/ third big war will begin when the big city is burning."
Nostradummus
His Evil Twin, Fake France - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 06:03:55 (PDT)

Mick - Amen to that!!!!
Ken Sez
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 03:33:44 (PDT)

Well do you want to go there and gawk or help.i don't think any of us should pass judgement or comment on how we think they are acting down there till we walk a mile in there shoes.GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM.
mickster
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2001 at 02:32:49 (PDT)

Gee, Been There, a surly cop at the rescue site??? Wonder what's made him edgy???
Ken Sez
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 20:31:24 (PDT)

Go to the rescue site? Can't get within miles of it before being told by a surly cop to move along.
Been There
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 20:25:26 (PDT)

George W. still looks like a puppet president. Usually you use the tough rhetoric (war) before the act or take action. Who pray tell does it effect when he declares war on terrorism? Good sound bite.
I wonder
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 20:22:02 (PDT)

WEBMASTER:
Please go back to the old font
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 19:06:13 (PDT)

KML85, I agree with you about having faith in our government. We are going to be the victors in this war on terrorism. Seeing the photos of the two President Bushes flanked by Cheney and Powell, taken ten years apart, was kind of eerie though. At least we've got experienced people in the cabinet. The rest of the world seems to be backing off from us, but our country is coming together like never before.
c78
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 17:57:50 (PDT)

Good evening everyone. Just checking in. I am so far very lucky to have only known 7 people that perished (or are on the missing list). I do however know dozens that are presently working ground zero. Their spirits are ok, but I can hear the sadness in their voices. I have attended two funerals this past week, and I am as angry as I am sad. I have cried more often in these past 6 days then I have my entire life. It's getting hard to even get off my ass to do anything. I cannot stop watching the news, and waiting. Although not a church going man, I have said many prayers this week, as you all have. We must all pray for ourselves, that we can pull out of this sense of dread, and, rebuild. God bless all of you. God Bless America.
Buster
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 17:49:10 (PDT)

Ken-Sez: I have to thank you...I was racking my brain trying to figure out the best way to say how I felt about what izzy wrote, and I dont think I could have said it any better than you. thank you, thank you , thank you. and god bless you all.....even you izzy,i think right now,after your comment,you need it more than others. I just found out that one of my best friends neighbors is missing in the rubble. he was one of the first firefighters there. my fiances uncle is helping out there also,he is a detective for the nypd, and even though he is alive, this kills these men and woman who have to pull out arms and legs, and kids. dont be so narrow minded, they have plenty more people to find,one of them may be someone you knew!!!!!!!
melissa verdi <msmush1111@aol.com>
long island , ny USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 17:30:56 (PDT)

This is one of the most beautiful things I've read so far. Since the Met's started tonight I thought you might enjoy it. Mehttp://espn.go.com/mlb/s/2001/0915/1251689.htmlt's. It is Curt Schilling's letter to America.
God Bless America
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 16:53:13 (PDT)

The best Offense is a good Defense.
AKA
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 16:17:08 (PDT)

Nice sentiments Iz., and I might add, a very cozy forum to air them, or should I say air them out. They seem to foul the air we are breathing. Here's an idea! Why don't you find someone who has lost a wife, or husband, kid, friend, etc. etc. in the attack, and share your views with that person. I'm sure it will be a very cordial exchange. Or try this! Go down to where the Trade Center used to be, and bounce your ideas off the rescue workers. I meaningfull exchange will be forthcoming i'm sure.
Ken Sez
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 15:39:33 (PDT)

Antoine- Very nicely put. I wanted to post on Izzy's comments, but I know that I am unable to respond rationaly at this time. Thank you.
JM85
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 14:15:01 (PDT)


Anti-Skell
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 13:30:56 (PDT)

I don't care how people pay as long as they do...
Gotta be startin' something
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 13:20:27 (PDT)

Michael Jackson wants to raise $50m (£34m): Michael Jackson has called together a group of some of the world's leading pop stars to record a song in aid of the families of victims of last week's suicide attacks in the United States. Jackson will be joined by, among others, Britney Spears, Destiny's Child and Nick Carter of the Backstreet Boys on the song What More Can I Give. They aim to raise about $50m (£34m) for survivors and families of victims of the attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon in Washington. In a statement issued on Sunday, Jackson said: "I believe in my heart that the music community will come together as one and rally to the aid of thousands of innocent victims.
The Horror---OHH- The Horror!!
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 13:17:50 (PDT)

Izzy, you are so misguided as to be parody. But I guess I was fool hearty when I was 15 too. (I hope you're not much older than that.) It's okay that you don't get along with your father. I'm sure he loves you in his own way. But someday you will feel terrible that you put such a moronic reaction in print and then displayed it for others to see. I'm sure the other regulars will be even harsher on you than I am being now, but it really is time to stop clinging to such old and tired arguments. Four hijacked planes killed 5,000 people last week. Say that out loud and I'm sure you won't be as cavalier about the failings and frailties of American Culture.
Antoine
Woodhaven, NY USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 13:03:14 (PDT)

I have faith in the government. We are smarter than them. I think that there is SO much behind the scenes stuff going on right now, there is no way we can know it, or SHOULD know it. For every snippet of information we get, there are 10,000 decisions and actions going on. That's what I believe, and that belief comforts me. GeorgeW is a figurehead, that's what the president is. He's been accused of having lots of people around telling him what to do, and I think in this instance, it's for our benefit, because he does have very smart people around, and between them all, we will be OK. (My 2-cents).
KML85
Middletown, NJ USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 13:01:21 (PDT)

AKA I don't agree with you. Not in this occurence!
JamesB
Russia - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 12:55:27 (PDT)

IZZY:: If you don't like it here in the free land, leave and go somewhere else..see ya ....Don't let the door hit ya in the Butt....
American
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 12:45:25 (PDT)

The Best Defense is a good Offense.
AKA
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 12:42:42 (PDT)

The talking head has the OK from Congress,,,,,,,,
It Will Be A Long War
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 12:30:39 (PDT)

Dubya is not that one in charge.....keep this in mind:
He is only a talking head.
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 12:19:52 (PDT)

I Wonder::: The Pres. is getting his ducks in a row...he will strike just
Give him Time
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 11:57:30 (PDT)

I wonder if George W. Bush has half the plan he is trying to project that he does. Instead of talking about war all the time, cut the rhetoric or actually do something.
I wonder
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 11:31:07 (PDT)

Me again!!!)))
JamesB
SPb, Russia - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 11:06:08 (PDT)

Anti Skell- Today's New York Post has pages 1 and 4 dedicated to the list of missing NYFD and NYPD members. The husband of my daughter's boss is on the firemen's missing list,so seeing his name in print has hit home.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 10:47:52 (PDT)

Anti-Skell: The only lists I can find so far are at CNN.com or msnbc.com. I believe these are only those confirmed dead. I say that because Mr. Marge's son and daughter-in-law's best friend was in the first tower hit. He called home and told his wife that something had hit the building, he was ok, but had to try to get out. They've not heard from him since. The CEO of the company he worked for, Cantor Fitzgerald, had a meeting with all the families and said that because of their location, all were lost. His memorial service is Wednesday. Also, up until last Dec., they lived across the street from the pilot of Flight 175. He is on the list. His funeral is tomorrow. They went to visit the family on Saturday.
Marge
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 10:18:05 (PDT)

Hi all. I just wanted to say that to everyone that has someone they lost or missing, i will pray for you,and to those that are helping ,i give you praise. I love on Long Island, and we are still as shocked as everyone, I work at a local deli here in town and we have raised a couple of hundred dollars and have taken tons of donations that we have been giving to our local radio station and they have been taking dump trucks filled with donations. I think it is wonderful that everyone is pulling together to keep this one nation under god, but shouldnt we be like this all the time? Why do we have to have terrorist attacks to bring us to love one another? God bless everyone, everywhere,everyday. And to my dear anti....I am safe, and I miss you so e mail me,ok? Take care everyone and lets stay strong for our fellow americans who are losing hope,ok?
melissa verdi <msmush1111@aol.com>
medford, long island, ny USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 10:16:44 (PDT)

Does anyone know of any lists naming the missing Firefighters,Police, and EMS workers ??? We all have seen the lists of terrorists,I think it would be apropos to list the missing from the tragedy.
Anti-Skell
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 09:49:51 (PDT)

Does anyone know of any lists naming the missing Firefighters,Police, and EMS workers ??? We all have seen the lists of terrorists,I think it would be apropos to list the missing from the tragedy.
Anti-Skell
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 09:49:42 (PDT)

I am going to explore the possibility of selling parking lot timeshares in the future parking lot now known as Afghanistan...
Anti-Skell
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 09:47:35 (PDT)

"I can't recall even one instance of these people showing signs of anger or hated for those who caused this. Maybe 'HOPE' is stil able to overpower..." hey, jim...i can't help but feel that right now all they feel is shock. not that i want them to hate, but for most, that will come eventually.
curious
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 09:28:54 (PDT)

Here we are folks ,on Monday morning, trying to get our lives back into a normal mode. Getting off the 'F' train this morning at Rockefeller Center was strange in many ways,from the 'missing persons' posters plastered on the subway walls to the absent street crowds outside the NBC Today Show's studio. We will survive,but it will take a lot of time. While watching the news shows last night with my wife, I called to her attention something I had suddenly realized ... in the countless interviews of parents, spouses,children or friends of the missing, I can't recall even one instance of these people showing signs of anger or hated for those who caused this. Maybe 'HOPE' is stil able to overpower all the other human emotions for now. Let us all help continue this spirit of hope and the ability to get along with our fellow citizens.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 07:50:52 (PDT)

Marge, thank you a million times. My husband is doing disaster recovery for his firm which is a brokerage/banking firm. The stories behind the scenes would boggle your mind. Not a flag to be found for sale, everyplace is sold out. Wearing the colors, saying the prayers, and crossing my fingers the market is able to last the day. Still smell it strongly in the air here in Soho. Sleeplessness is a small price to pay when you are lucky enough to live. Your concern and words are so appreciated.
Tish
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 06:57:29 (PDT)

Something very beautiful just happened. The NYSE just applauded the workers, victims, etc. and then had 2 mins. of silence. They then had someone sing God Bless America and then some of rescue workers ring the bell to open the exchange. And, for the 100th time, I cry. And, so is hubby, and my other broker. It is wonderful that they put aside the financial for a moment for what's really important.
Marge
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 06:37:11 (PDT)

Tish: I've not found the way yet to fall asleep peacefully without thinking about this. We are a nation, together, in mourning. The flag is out, I'm wearing a small red, white & blue ribbon with a black one inside it, and am lighting a candle every night under my mail box from 7 to 10. Went, of all things, with hubby's family to a Presbyterian church yesterday. I cried through the whole service.
Marge
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 06:34:59 (PDT)

Congratulations to the Olino Family! Glad to hear good news.
Tish
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 05:51:17 (PDT)

Hi Guys....Just a quick word: The next time you are stuck in traffic or the bus / train / plane / ferry is late or your car won't start.....don't get angry or upset. Instead, ask yourself "What is God sparing me from?" My friends and family have been fortunate. I could tell you of seven different instances where these people I know missed certain doom my mere minutes. I'll spare you the details - And consider this: Many of the people that have perished are now with God and His glory. They wouldn't want to come back. Rest assured you will see your loved ones again. I'm far from being a religious fanatic or Bible thumper, just a realist who know the truth and has faith in God. Thanks for listening, God bless those of you who are mourning and everyone who has yet to mourn.
Dan
BERNE, NY USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 01:50:53 (PDT)

Welcome To A New Day......Hope all are well & safe
Night Owl
USA - Monday, September 17, 2001 at 00:40:36 (PDT)

I just wanted to wish everyone that will be returning to work tomorrow peace and best wishes. I don't envy any of you.
Formerly USA
USA - Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 18:36:16 (PDT)

Sorry, my typing skills are lacking.
Bob C
USA - Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 17:23:40 (PDT)

Remember Patriotism is more than merely waving a flag. I has more to do with what you are willing to sacrifice when called upon. Time will tell what we are willing to give up to avenge this crime. Will we be willing to give up our son and daughter or our grandchildren? Will we be willing to give our wealth? Will we be willing to be incovenienced in our daily lives? Ask yourself what eill you give up?
Bob C
Phx, AZ USA - Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 17:22:17 (PDT)

It is my pleasure to announce the birth of my beautiful Grand Godson, Alexander William Olino, 8lbs 7oz, on September 15th. His proud parents are Anthony and Marcie Olino. Alexander has 1 older brother, and 1 older sister. Way to go Anthony and Marcie!!!!
Proud Grand Godmother
Ozone Park, NY USA - Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 16:30:36 (PDT)

Hey Helper, why wouldn't you thank all the white people too?
Sounds racist to me
USA - Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 10:31:05 (PDT)

I would just like to thank all the nonwhite people who tried to Help the rescue workers at the world trade center. Tues night helpful people tried to free sneakers and boots from stores in bklyn north. To bad the police came out in force to stop them. They all should heva Bin In nyc.
Helper
USA - Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 09:57:19 (PDT)

Mickster, all these workers are performing miracles by the minute. They are strong of spirit and unafraid to do the worst job in the world. I hope that NYers look upon these fireman, emergency workers, and especially cops, with fresh eyes and REAL respect.
Tish
USA - Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 08:35:21 (PDT)

C78, I know what you mean. I was totally unhinged by witnessing the attacks and the immediate aftermath. I wondered how I could ever function in a society that had become so raw, violent and uncivilized. I have spent the last few days watching Israeli life and how they live in a terrorist society, and reading how the English survived the blitz. If they can/could do it, I know we can. I don't feel very strong yet, but I am determined. Don't hesitate to consider purchasing respirator masks if you must return to Manhattan to work tomorrow...they look like surgical masks, are folded so they are easy to carry and can fit in your purse or back pocket. We can never be ready for anything but my backpack will have a few safety provisions, my ID, a pocket flashlight, and a bottle of water. Those of you that don't work downtown may think my preparations are extreme, but if you were there you'd understand.
Tish
USA - Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 08:31:51 (PDT)

Let these other states talk about us now or the quality of life.Turn on the news,that is the quality of life.These people are not clockwatchers doing that work over there.They are determined and it brings a tear to my eye and makes me never prouder to be a New yorker.These people are amazing.GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.I am truly proud to be from the same part of the state and Us as all of you.God Bless you and your families and all who have lost.People i never ever seen before just faces on a television tube and im more proud than most anything i had ever seen.My hat is off to you all.
MICKSTER
USA - Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 06:45:13 (PDT)

New Year's Day, Lincoln's Birthday,Washington's Birthday, Armed Forces Day,Memorial Day,Flag Day,Independence Day, V-J Day,Labor Day,Thanksgiving,Veterans' Day,Pearl Harbor Day,Christmas,State Admission Day and September 11th.
FLAG-FLYING HOLIDAYS
USA - Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 04:45:53 (PDT)

1. The flag of the United States should be flown daily from sunrise to sunset in good weather from public buildings, schools, permanent staffs, and in or near polling places on election days. The flag may be displayed 24 hours a day on patriotic holidays or if properly illuminated. 2. The flag should not be displayed on days when the weather is bad, except when an all-weather flag is used. 3. The flag should always be flown on national and state holidays and on those occasions proclaimed by the President. On Memorial Day, the flag should be half staffed until noon. 4. The flag should be hoisted briskly and lowered ceremoniously. It should never be dipped to any person nor should it ever be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress. 5. The flag should never touch anything beneath it, nor should it ever be carried flat or horizontally. 6. It should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, drapery, or decoration, nor for carrying or holding anything. 7. The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged. It should never be used as a covering for a ceiling. 8. The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle. When a flag is displayed on a car, the flag's staff should be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender. 9. The flag or its staff should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. Nor should any picture, drawing, insignia or other decoration be placed on or attached to the flag, its staff, or halyard. 10. The flag should not be embroidered on cushions, handkerchiefs, or other personal items nor printed on anything designed for temporary use and discarded. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, or members of other patriotic organizations. 11. When the flag is so worn or soiled that it is no longer suitable for display, it should be destroyed in a dignified manner, preferably by burning.
The Flag Rules
USA - Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 04:43:48 (PDT)

I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.
Say it with the kids
USA - Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 04:42:11 (PDT)

I AM THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA , My name is Old Glory. I fly atop the world's tallest buildings. I stand watch in America's halls of justice. I fly majestically over institutions of learning. I stand guard with power in the world. Look up and see me. I stand for peace, honor, truth and justice. I stand for freedom. I am confident. I am arrogant. I am proud. When I am flown with my fellow banners, my head is a little higher, my colors a little truer. I bow to no one! I am recognized all over the world. I am worshipped - I am saluted. I am loved - I am revered. I am respected - and I am feared. I have fought in every battle of every war for more then 200 years. I was flown at Valley Forge, Gettysburg, Shiloh and Appomattox. I was there at San Juan Hill, the trenches of France, in the Argonne Forest, Anzio, Rome and the beaches of Normandy, Guam. Okinawa, Korea and KheSan, Saigon, Vietnam know me, I was there. I led my troops, I was dirty, battleworn and tired, but my soldiers cheered me, and I was proud. I have been burned, torn and trampled on the streets of countries I have helped set free. It does not hurt, for I am invincible. I have been soiled upon, burned, torn and trampled on the streets of my country. And when it's by those whom I've served in battle -- it hurts. But I shall overcome -- for I am strong. I have slipped the bonds of Earth and stood watch over the uncharted frontiers of space from my vantage point on the moon. I have borne silent witness to all of America's finest hours. But my finest hours are yet to come. When I am torn into strips and used as bandages for my wounded comrades on the battlefield; when I am flown at half-mast to honor my soldier; or when I lie in the trembling arms of a grieving parent at the grave of their fallen son or daughter, I am proud. MY NAME IS OLD GLORY LONG MAY I WAVE. DEAR GOD IN HEAVEN: LONG MAY I WAVE.
American
USA - Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 20:15:39 (PDT)

We are so blessed to have lived in the greatest city on Earth. I still live in NYC, in Auburndale, and it was so touching to see all the candles lit last night. For once in history, the house with flags stick out more than the houses without. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
c78We
USA - Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 19:11:51 (PDT)

Thanks Woodhaven,I was driving tru old woodhaven about 9pm and a crowd of 30-40 were chanting USA,waving flags and holding lighted candles on Atlantic Ave and 87st.I beeped my horn,gave a shout out of USA-USA,and saluted all the old glorys.After seeing that i know we will prevail and strive to greater heights.
It brought tears to my eyes
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 20:21:12 (PDT)

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USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 19:55:14 (PDT)

Its 7pm .....
Please light a candle
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 16:05:58 (PDT)

HI there! It's unbeleavable!!! But I think it's that ,what they whant....
JamesB <adrenalin2000@inbox.ru>
Russia - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 15:47:58 (PDT)

we visited las vegas in july 2001, we enjoyed the trip so much we plan to vist again in may 2002
stan shauf <sshauf@webtv.net>
tampa, fl USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 15:39:13 (PDT)

Thanks Marge. Curious, you ok? Jim, those places you speak of are the ones I heard about but was too little to visit. Rather, if I did, I was too young to remember. It was nice to see a little of something else today. A distraction was welcome. Listening to jets overhead now - more than before. Don't want to get addicted to sleeping pills. Does anyone have any ideas on how to get this stuff out of your mind so you can rest?
Tish
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 13:34:58 (PDT)

If any of you old Woodhavenites missed out on Karl's Fresh Ham dinner ... boy you missed out big time.
Jimk of Mineola
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:31:31 (PDT)

Mr. Jimbo - I too ate at Karl's Diner, as a kid and especially from 74-77 when I was on my own and too dumb to cook for myself (outside of TV dinners. I remember their menu on the wall which consisted of hadwritten and printed signs which slid into the brackets. Everythin cost .85 or .95 cents. The food was so so but your plate was loaded with about 2lbs. worth. Karl would sit in the corner, smoke and talk to certain customer. His wife was gaunt and exhausted looking and did most of the work. They served Fink bread with a pat of butter that was almost frozen and impossible to use. I don't think there were more than 10 seats in the place and everthing was available to take out. Thanks for this discovery.
The Mont
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:17:30 (PDT)

A safe weekend to all.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:07:26 (PDT)

bye marge-- be safe :O)
curious
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:01:57 (PDT)

Leaving here soon. Wishing everyone a very peaceful, contemplative, warm weekend. Hug a friend. Hug your family. Light that candle at 7.
Marge
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:47:55 (PDT)

Tish: Your thoughts, once again, put forth so well.
Marge
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:47:05 (PDT)

I am not suggesting in any way that we forget about what is going on at the WTC ... but if you need to break away for a time,I found a great website today for New Yorkers in the 40 + age group. The address is www.forgotten-ny.com This extensive site covers old NY history from Coney Island to subways/trolleys to old ads and signs and even the WMCA good guys.Clicking on 'street scenes' bring you to 'abandoned luncheonette' which gives pictures and stories about Karl's Bluebird Diner on Rockaway Blvd and 91 Ave. where I remember eating with my parents in the 50's and 60's.Maybe someone out there with a scanner has an old photo of Dexter Park or Neir's (Union Course )Bar.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:34:29 (PDT)

From Entertainment Weekly: LONGTIME 'FRIENDS'? Hold onto your La-Z-Boy: Turns out the cast of ''Friends'' is open to coming back after this season, but they ''want to be wowed'' with sexier salaries and scripts, a source says.
Aren't we suffering enough?!?!?!?!?
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:06:05 (PDT)

Hi! I am here. I have been out of work since Tuesday. Just haven't had the motivitation to travel back into the city. It's been pretty horrible. I don't work near there (I'm on 3rd and 42nd), but I have a VERY close friend that worked at 7 World Trade Center and described for me a nightmare that she will never be able to forget. I am just thankful she got out. It was really nice to know that people were concerned about me and others. JM85 and Mickster I am glad you are my friends, and kimber fan, whoever you are...thanks for being concerned, USA thanks for wanting to help JM85 in locating me. I was very touched. I hope everyone here and their families are doing well! It's a very sad time for everyone. Take care.
kimber
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 10:36:32 (PDT)

don't mean to be cynical at this time, but just have an observation to share, i love to see the patriotism and the American flags adorning houses during this terrible time....but i believe i have seen more puerto rican flags during the parade weekend and and more flags of the winning team of the world cup (brazil,germany) than i have in the last few days, hopefully there will be more, an again, i don't mean to seem cynical, i am tried and true behind the old USA...just making an observation... as for the person who sent that michael moore link, i read his article, he makes a few good points, but comes up looking like a bleeding heart asshole
forest parker
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:17:00 (PDT)

ITS BEEN 3 DAYS SINCE THE TOWERS CAME DOWN AND STILL ALL I CAN SAY IS "UNBELIEVEABLE",I MUST HAVE SEEN THE VIDEO OF THOSE PLANES CRASHING INTO THE BUILDINGS 500 TIMES AND ITS STILL A SHOCK EVERY TIME.WEDNESDAY AFTER I TOOK MY GIRLS TO THE BUS STOP I WAS OUTSIDE TAKING PICTURES OF MY BABY WHEN I HEARD A REALLY LOUD PLANE OVERHEAD AND IT TOOK ME A COUPLE OF SECONDS TO THINK THAT PLANES WEREN'T SUPPOSE TO BE FLYING AND I LOOKED UP TO SEE A FIGHTER JET FLYING OVER MY HOUSE!!!!THAT WAS WHEN EVERYTHING JUST HIT HOME,IT WAS REALLY SCARY.
LASHER
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:14:00 (PDT)

The Govenor, Mayor, Fire Commissioner, Police Commisoner and whomever else has asked that all of this stop. They only want reports on actual things. Not what the news has been broadcasting. This is causing undo pain to everyone and can be detrimental to the rescue efforts. If it keeps up - they will arrest those offenders. Finally some justice with the untrue reports on the news. I was so happy when they said survivors found from first day. Then it turned out to be only rescue workers from Thursday. My hope dropped. I think God those workers are OK, but it was a sign of hope if it was from those on the first day. Then all the SOBs coming in and stealing. Those making believe they have people there and having workers looking for them. Putting names on databases of people who weren't there, or weren't found, etc. Telemarketing firm asking for donations for WTC fund - isn't true. Scam. Shame on all these people. I hope God punishes them. I know what you do to others eventually at some point comes back to you, but sometimes it can take awhile. Well, it should be immediate.
Survivor
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:58:52 (PDT)

Curious, all the stories have been denied. Jim, even the hopeful story of a woman contacting her husband in the rubble and rushing to his side was fabricated. There are also buffoons staggering around Ground Zero pretending to be fireman so they can be interviewed. All those stories made me hopeful for the first time in days. They are cruel bastards for breaking our hearts again.
Tish
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:58:13 (PDT)

Glad to see the amazing patience and understanding most people are showing, both on the roads and the subways. We all send our best to the rescue workers today ...because of last nights heavy rains,every bucket of debris will now be three time heavier. I also saw the story last night of the woman whose husband called on a cell phone and said he was with 10 cops trapped in a WTC lower level.Haven't heard any more about this ...hope this story was true and not someone whose goal was to just get their face on TV.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:54:07 (PDT)

Good Morning Marge. As you know by the things I choose to write about here, and perhaps in some email you have heard about, I cherish the past. Even as a child I recognized the strong values born of hardships, that my family and most other Woodhaveners, endured from the 30's, 40's and onward. The strength of their integrity and the resolve of their patriotism was a result of struggle for freedom and survival from wherever they came (other shores, lower Manhattan, etc.). Does anyone remember when an American flag was hung out on every holiday? For family members birthdays? I do. Sadly so much of this pride went away in the late 60's and was really killed off after Watergate. I never felt we Americans ever got it together after that. We all went on to that awful ME generation that excluded country and community, but made fat bank accounts. For lots of understandable reasons, the churches of many different faiths were abandoned. I remember several old timers making comments like "what this country needs is a war". I used to go ballistic when I heard comments like that, but I think I know what some of them meant now. I cannot bear anymore bloodshed, and I cringe at what is to come. Those of us spared are afraid that the next losses will be our own. I don't want a war. But I can see that this country needed to come together and be unified. How horrid that the very comment I fought against in my youth has come to pass demonstrating the strength, focus and human compassion that I suspected the rest of us always had. Marge, I do hope this new American community lasts and would find it nearly impossible to imagine that anyone can remain untouched or find it easy to return to complacency after our tragedy. Last night I heard so many multi-cultural voices sing God Bless America. Technically, it was awful with off-key notes mispronounced phrases, but it was perfection in spirit...LOUD, SURE and STRONG. Our hearts are focused in the right place and it will take much more than these attacks to kill that. I do not believe anyone stands alone anymore.
Tish
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:53:44 (PDT)

Sorry curious----- Today's storm followed a disappointing 24 hours. No survivors were found, only false hope. Reports of five firefighters recovered alive in a buried SUV were carried by television stations and news agencies, including The Associated Press. Authorities were ecstatic, but the story wasn't true.
The Chicago Tribune
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:35:00 (PDT)

KENNY IS ALSO FINE.MICHAEL AND KENNY ARE BOTH FINE.KENNY WILL BE OVER THERE SO WE CAN KEEP IN OUR PRAYERS BUT HE IS OK.
MICKSTER
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:05:42 (PDT)

While my word "hopeless" was to be "helpless", maybe both are proper right now.
Marge
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 06:45:23 (PDT)

We have all just experienced, as a country, as a society and as a civilization of all peoples, the most horrific tragedy of all time. I know, like everyone, you too are feeling a very heavy sadness. and, we all feel so hopeless. I am wearing red, white and blue today, I have a flag outside the house at half-mast, I will burn a candle outside tonight at 7 p.m., as will many others, and Ben and I will be giving blood today. And, through all this sadness and grief, and loss of life, security and shattered dreams...we will prevail. Please pass these words on to everyone you know... NEVER FORGET! Hopefully, we never do.
Marge
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 06:43:58 (PDT)

Tish: You're experience last night and your description was wonderful. Wouldn't it be nice if all this friendship and love would last.
Marge
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 06:41:19 (PDT)

Jim of Mineola: You can tell I'm not concentrating at all...that's "drone" not drown. I'm sure you knew.
Marge
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 06:40:30 (PDT)

Change the font back to normal!!!
WE BEG YOU
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 06:27:17 (PDT)

i watched on the news last night a fireman saying that they had found more police officers-- up to 10-- ALIVE in the rubble-- but no mention on any of the news sources this morning-- what happened?? did anyone else see this!!
curious
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 06:03:38 (PDT)

Welcome to a new Day......****WE SHALL OVERCOME*****
Night Owl
USA - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 00:10:37 (PDT)

Hey OZONE PARK !! Mike YOUNG is like my brother always was.....but what if the Mickster ain't MIKE YOUNG (((( smile))) Ok that he is accounted for too.Be well whomever you are !!Mike is safe.
MICKSTER <SPEEDO736@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 21:41:16 (PDT)

What about KENNY......
????
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 19:43:26 (PDT)

Thanks Woody. That's great news
Former Neighbor <durands3@juno.com>
Ozone Park, NY USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 18:57:28 (PDT)

Tonight I have witnessed one of the most inspiring moments I have ever seen here in Woodhaven. Here, at 75 Street and 85 Road, gathered a large group of Woodhaveners. I heard voices growing louder and was shocked to see people walking towards the center of the street, most holding candles. I am limited to speaking only one language but I heard many - Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Chinese. I heard English with many accents. I haven't left my home since the WTC disaster. I have been wracked with grief and many tears after witnessing such a loss of life and human cruelty. I truly wondered how I could ever walk the streets again. More people gathered and I thought that the vigil was to mourn a neighbor. Fresh tears came as I thought "dear God, not another". I flew down the stairs to find out what I could and offer comfort. In the center of the ring of people was a man with a booming voice. He appealed to everyone to recognize that no matter the skin color or religion we all were, to remember we are all the same and all in pain. Prayers were said, songs were sung, and I marveled that all this happened on my very doorstep. The man that organized this impressive evening is Francis Brosnan, a member of the NYPD. You may have seen his face on the cover of the NY Times yesterday. He was bandaged then, and in a wheelchair. His eyes were burned from the explosion. Yes, he was there and lost three friends. I never met Francis and his wife and son before. I have lived on my block for 8 years. They have lived here for 15 years. How is that possible? Many of us introduced themselves for the very first time tonight. There was talk of a block party so that the next time we gather it wouldn't be because of loss and war. I am so grateful to him for pulling this group of people together. Many Woodhaveners came from surrounding blocks to join us. A person gathered the Spanish Woodhaveners together to be in a picture which is said to be printed in the Leader Observer. I am going back outside now, and invite anyone reading to come over and join us. The night is young, and there is hope and love in our town.
Tish
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 17:24:47 (PDT)

Michael Young was on vaction in Jamaica. He is presumably safe and merely grounded by the lack of flights.
Woody
Haven, USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 16:35:54 (PDT)

>>----- "In the year of the new century and nine months, From the sky will >>come a great King of Terror... The sky will burn at forty-five degrees. >>Fire approaches the great new city... " "In the city of york there will be >>a great collapse, 2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos while the fortress >>falls the great leader will succumb third big war will begin when the big >>city is burning." -Nostradamus 1654 Profitez pleinement du Web. Téléchargez
Reenie
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 16:29:20 (PDT)

If the Mickster is Michael Young, is he accounted for? I would like to know.
Concerned Former Neighbor
Ozone Park, NY USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 16:22:48 (PDT)

WEBMASTER: This font is hard on the eye's please go back to old font, And I would like to thank you for the concerns of loved ones who are missing. OOPS!....Sorry!.....Fixed!...Webmaster
GETTING OLD...
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 14:26:02 (PDT)

Thank you Marge. Like so many of us, I will never get over this, and am grateful to be alive. Many companies in Manhattan are giving employees off tomorrow to observe the National Day of Mourning. I fear Bush's visit...why don't they just paint red rings on his head? I pray HARD for everyone's safety and hope eveyone can stay out of Manhattan tomorrow. Say a pray to protect my Mr. Tish who must work tomorrow (he is heading disaster recovery for his company). Thank you.
Tish
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 14:10:29 (PDT)

Tish: Glad you got home and are ok. My husband's son's name is Ken. They may know one another though. It's a small community. My sister was evacuated today and went home. I think she'll stay home tomorrow.
Marge
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 14:06:47 (PDT)

Jim of Mineola: Very nice post once again, Jim. We are hearing the drown of the military planes here. Can't see them however. This morning our lights went out while i was in the shower. Scared me to death. It was due to a local accident and went on in about 70 mins., but Mr. Marge turned on the car radio to make sure it wasn't something major, like the whole east coast or something. How awlful when you don't have ANY communication with anyone.
Marge
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 14:05:38 (PDT)

Buttons? That will help. After all, the S**** in question is still in power. This is not the time for jokes or misguided symbolism. We are at war. Bombs will be flying within days or maybe a week or two. Let's take it seriously.
Red
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:40:02 (PDT)

People we are one nation we must stick together in this time of need. My hopes and prayers are out to all those people that are missing and I hope they return to there familys. Hates a crime people and the people that have commited it will be sought out and punished
Jesse <Darkangel@123081Yahoo.com>
Wantagh, ny USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:30:32 (PDT)

Where's Mickster?
Is Mickster accounted for? Concerned
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:25:14 (PDT)

First time I have been able to make an outside call or get online since I made it out of Manhattan. Been reading all the posts and there is such comfort in community. Glad to hear of all the WOLers that are okay. Saw the name Pam from American Express - is she okay too? They evacuated Amex today and I thought of her (I have never met her but some things stick in your mind). Marge, what is the name of your step-son? Or if you are not comfortable with giving out that information...does he live in New Jersey? I know someone with a company that sounds just like the one you described. The owner's name is Jay.
Tish
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:21:54 (PDT)

Just who are you talking to?
Get over yourself
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:18:34 (PDT)

More important things to do than get into a war of words with you, whoever you are, since you wouldn't really sign on. I'll just say this, you take the high road, I'll stay down here on the low road with the sinners seeking revenge!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ken Sez
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:06:32 (PDT)

Scroll down and read......Kimber is fine i looked into it and was told that everyone in her office in fact is fine.(<-- From Mickster)
Stop being an idiot
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:01:07 (PDT)

HAS ANYONE HEARD FROM KIMBER?
WHAT ABOUT kIMBER
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:57:51 (PDT)

I remember the buttons "Fuck Iran" and "Khomeni is a Schmuck"...time for more buttons!
Terrorists suck
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:55:21 (PDT)

http://okay.prodigy.net/
another search list
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:12:46 (PDT)

It is obvious that life will never be the same for 5,000+ families,but in midtown today the American spirit in general and the New York spirit in particular lives on.The streets today are again filled with taxis,trucks, and buses ...the sidewalks loaded with office workers,tourists and Moms pushing baby carraiges.Along 3rd Avenue,the restaurant's sidewalk cafes don't have an empty seat available. Despite this town's list of shortcomings,I think every resident of NYC and it's close suburbs can hold their head up high and be proud knowing that we will eventually overcome this horrible crisis as we have countless before this.Having lived in Woodhaven,Howard Beach,Ozone Park and Mineola through the years,I have often been annoyed because of having the sound of a plane drown out a conversation or a punch line on TV. Without that roar of a jet in the sky,these last 48 hours have taken on an empty feeling that I never would have imagined.As far back as grammar school we were told that America was one of the few countries in the world that gave it's people the freedom to hop on a plane and travel without answering to anyone ...hope that 'taken for granted freedom' will return soon. Finally,but most important, please don't forget your prayers for those killed,injured, missing,their families and the countless folks (all TRUE HEROS) working to pick up the pieces including firemen,cops,bulldozer operators , search teams, medical teams and countless others. THANK YOU ALL !!!
Jim of Mineola
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:09:24 (PDT)

http://www.wtcfamilies.org/missing_list
Helpful list for search of loved ones missing
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:03:08 (PDT)

http://www.michaelmoore.com/2001_0912.html
Read this!!!!
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:45:46 (PDT)

TO ALL: I rarely post on this site but I am an avid reader, I was soo relieved to see posts from many of the "regulars". As I said I basically only read & rarely write here I feel as if I know many of you through your words/memories. Anyway I hope everyone is ok. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!!
former woodhavenite
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:41:05 (PDT)

So glad Kimber is ok and everyone else who posted. A Policeman from Queens said they were getting supplies from the BJ's there. People made a human chain to help and pass every bottle of water. Others offered their trucks to the police and their service. Everyone - PLEASE don't attack anyone, leave Ken Sez alone. Be kind! It's imperative if we want to survive this. We don't know if there were terrorists trapped here, places are being evacuted everywhere.
God help us
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:16:17 (PDT)

Please put the format back to normal! PLEASE!!
Hurts to Read It
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 08:36:19 (PDT)

Glad to hear that Kimber is fine. She is an old friend. I am afraid, however, how many old friends that we have lost this week.
JM85
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 08:25:50 (PDT)

Ken, I wish you were the WTC yesterday because everything seems to fly over your head. If you're really that thrilled about what's to come, they have already won. I do hope that the events of yesterday settle in and you come to realize that nothing truly good or satisfying will ever come from this. Ken Sez is a loser
Ken Sez is a loser
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 08:20:22 (PDT)

What's with the weird small print?
kimber fan
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 08:18:48 (PDT)

Marge - thanks!!! What Leonard says is soooo true. Bush is on now. He is calling this a war. He wants the terrorists responsible. He will hold them accountable as well as any country harboring them. He is coming to NY on 9/14 to grieve with all of us. He also asked that we do not bother any Islamic/Arabic resident here in the US. WEBMASTER - thanks for taking out that note (sorry about my little slip - but I was angry). Everyone fly your flags. I also received an e-mail that I hope makes it around the country. Help and pass the message on: Friday Night at 7:00 p.m. step out your door, stop your car, or step out of your establishment and light a candle. We will show the world that Americans are strong and united together against terrorism. Please pass this to everyone on your e-mail list. We need to reach everyone across the United States quickly. > > > > > > The message: WE STAND UNITED - WE WILL NOT TOLERATE TERRORISM. > > > > > > We need press to cover this-- we need the world to see. > > >
Survivor
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 08:13:19 (PDT)

The Leonard Pitts reading was wonderful, as was what Johnny wrote. Well done. SURVIVOR: So glad that you, and all other survivors are here and well. I guess I'm a little bias when it comes to NY, it's in my heart, but there is no one like New Yorkers. When I saw all those people there applauding the rescue teams and volunteers, my heart swelled. When I see the candle light vigils outside the hospitals, my heart swells and all the pictures of loved ones possibly lost, my heart swells. Every day we hear of more and more stories of people who have lost, friends and loved ones as the time goes on, and my heart breaks as it has for the last 2 days.
Marge
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:55:02 (PDT)

Kimber is fine i looked into it and was told that everyone in her office in fact is fine.
Mickster <BIGGER KIMBER FAN>
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:54:03 (PDT)

TV Networks have 4,700+ on the missing list
Reenie
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:29:47 (PDT)

This was printed in yesterday's Miami Herald. It is by Leonar Pitts. His Email is Leonardpitts@mindspring.com We'll go forward from this moment It's my job to have something to say. They pay me to provide words that help make sense of that which troubles the American soul. But in this moment of airless shock when hot tears sting disbelieving eyes, the only thing I can find to say, the only words that seem to fit, must be addressed to the unknown author of this suffering. You monster. You beast. You unspeakable bastard. What lesson did you hope to teach us by your coward's attack on our World Trade Center, our Pentagon, us? What was it you hoped we would learn? Whatever it was, please know that you failed. Did you want us to respect your cause? You just damned your cause. Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our resolve. Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us together. Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and quarrelsome family, a family rent by racial, social, political and class division, but a family nonetheless. We're frivolous, yes, capable of expending tremendous emotional energy on pop cultural minutiae -- a singer's revealing dress, a ball team's misfortune, a cartoon mouse. We're wealthy, too, spoiled by the ready availability of trinkets and material goods, and maybe because of that, we walk through life with a certain sense of blithe entitlement. We are fundamentally decent, though -- peace-loving and compassionate. We struggle to know the right thing and to do it. And we are, the overwhelming majority of us, people of faith, believers in a just and loving God. Some people -- you, perhaps -- think that any or all of this makes us weak. You're mistaken. We are not weak. Indeed, we are strong in ways that cannot be measured by arsenals. IN PAIN Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning and we are in shock. We're still grappling with the unreality of the awful thing you did, still working to make ourselves understand that this isn't a special effect from some Hollywood blockbuster, isn't the plot development from a Tom Clancy novel. Both in terms of the awful scope of their ambition and the probable final death toll, your attacks are likely to go down as the worst acts of terrorism in the history of the United States and, probably, the history of the world. You've bloodied us as we have never been bloodied before. But there's a gulf of difference between making us bloody and making us fall. This is the lesson Japan was taught to its bitter sorrow the last time anyone hit us this hard, the last time anyone brought us such abrupt and monumental pain. When roused, we are righteous in our outrage, terrible in our force. When provoked by this level of barbarism, we will bear any suffering, pay any cost, go to any length, in the pursuit of justice. I tell you this without fear of contradiction. I know my people, as you, I think, do not. What I know reassures me. It also causes me to tremble with dread of the future. In the days to come, there will be recrimination and accusation, fingers pointing to determine whose failure allowed this to happen and what can be done to prevent it from happening again. There will be heightened security, misguided talk of revoking basic freedoms. We'll go forward from this moment sobered, chastened, sad. But determined, too. Unimaginably determined. THE STEEL IN US You see, the steel in us is not always readily apparent. That aspect of our character is seldom understood by people who don't know us well. On this day, the family's bickering is put on hold. As Americans we will weep, as Americans we will mourn, and as Americans, we will rise in defense of all that we cherish. So I ask again: What was it you hoped to teach us? It occurs to me that maybe you just wanted us to know the depths of your hatred. If that's the case, consider the message received. And take this message in exchange: You don't know my people. You don't know what we're capable of. You don't know what you just started. But you're about to learn.
Leonard
Miami, FL USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:13:42 (PDT)

That Canadian editorial is actually 30 years old. It was written during the Vietnam war. (Those are the references to War mongering America and draft dodgers on their streets.) It's kind of chilling to read it and realize that it easily could have been written a week ago. Some of the airplanes he mentions are outdated and there now some European conglomorates that do make commercially viable airplanes. The San Fransico Quake that he refers to was the 1906 Quake, which 30 years ago was still used at the standard, common reference to an unspeakable traqedy. It's sad to think how many terrible things have eclipsed that since, including a 1989 Earthquake in the same city. That editorial floats around the Chain Email circuit every 6 months or so. I read it every time, but never has it given me more comfort than when I read it today. We will be all right. Eventually.
Canuck
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 06:54:37 (PDT)

The Justice Department's Office of Victims of Crime has set up a phone line to provide information to families about victims and survivors: 1-800-331-0075.
For Info
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 05:31:45 (PDT)

A co-worker just sent this to me from a Canadian newspaper. Finally!!!!! Always did like Canada America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars! into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -! not once, but several times - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those." Stand proud, America!
Survivor
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 04:31:23 (PDT)

The WTC center was a horrific act of violence. I was there. My building is right next to the center. We were in the office and heard the big boom. We didnt' know what it was at first. We looked out the window and saw debris falling. At first we thought it was a bomb. Then the reports started coming in about a plane hitting. People in just arriving at our office saw it, couldn't believe it. The plane was so low, then boom, right into the North Tower. We started to evacuate. We couldn't believe it. Wondered what went wrong with the plance. By the time we got to t he lobby, the 2nd one hit. That was it. We got out of there. We looked up at the North Tower and saw the gaping hole. My God. It was horrible. You seen the smoke and some fire - the blackness. Even saw what looked like part of a plane. We all went North. Looked back and saw the South Tower. The flames were all over. No-one above that could have gotten down. As well as no-one where the planes hit could have survived. Started to think - alot of people who did start to make their way down in the South Tower after the first plane hit - had to be around the location of where the 2nd plane hit. I felt really sick. Now we knew - this was no accident. We had to get out of there. Turned around a few times, until we realized people were actually jumping out because they couldn't escape. They rather jump to their death!! I just felt like collapsing. Proceeded North. Everytime a plane was heard overhead, you ducked any loud bang, you jumped. Finally realized the planes were the fighter jets. Relieved they were there. Everyone in the city was great. Talking, using cell phones (of those that still worked) to help others contact family. Trucks and cars had their radios on blasting, so everyone could hear. Next thing the Pentagon gets hit. Oh My God!!! We're going to war. This is not suppose to happen here. They just made The United States of America look like their country. They are bringing their problems here now. South Tower collapses, North Tower collapses. Nothing there. Emptiness. All the thousands and thousands of lives of innocent people murdered. All the rescurers murdered. Walked further North - uptown. As you got further away from WTC, you saw more police. Started asking questions, said we had to go over 59th St Bridge. All subways down, Penn Sta evacuated just after we arrived. No LIRR service. No service. Across 59th St Bridge - into Long Island City. People getting rides from cars/trucks on the bridge. Saw a pregnant woman, a man was helping her. Hopefully a car or truck stopped and picked her up. Walked parts of Long Island City. Each step I felt like just stopping. Kept thinking. I want to get home, want to see my family - that kept me going. Finally the 7 train was running. Tried to get on platform - they had the turnstyles locked. Token Booth clerk wouldn't open up, said no service. People arguing with him - trains are passing in both directions now. People started hopping the turnstyles or going under. Token clerk got on the phone and finally opened the turnstyles, and DO YOU BELIEVE, the F*#*#* city made us pay! At the time, I didn't think to argue or anything. I just wanted to get home. Got further away from Long Island City, where my husband was able to pick us up. My cell phone (AT&T) didn't work at all. Must have come from the North Tower Antenna. Person I was with had Verizon. Thank god, when we got further away from the WTC, it finally worked. That was how we reached all our families. Everything was in slow-motion. It was like you were watching a movie. This couldn't be true. I know alot of people complained that the city didn't help with people leaving. But the majority of police were stationed at 14th Street to stop people from enetering or were at the trade center. Or they were stationed at other intervals to prevent people from entering certain buildings or areas, as well as controlling traffic that was much worse than normal. I'm asked by all if I was scared during all of this. And I can honestly tell them "NO". It never entered my mind to be scared. I just wanted to get out of there - get home to my family. The closer I got to home was when the tears started. TV is on constantly, hoping they pull out survivors. Everytime they the WTC on fire, the 2nd lane hitting, people jumping, the buildings collapsing, relatives and friends looking for loved ones, the rescuers (fireman/police/nurses/drs) being mentioned - I just cry. Everytime my son comes in the room I'm in, I hug him. I am so thankful that I am here. My building is still standing, but they aren't sure about the structural integrity. I know there are holes in the side and that there was damage to roof too. Also there were a few fires that broke out also. It is filled with water up to the lobby. They think the foundation is gone. I know there are many other buildings around that have gone down, might go down or are badly damaged. This is something that I will never ever forget. I do not need a picture to see. It is imprinted in my mind forever. My prayers and thoughts are with all of those people that survived. My special prayers and thoughts are with those that have family and friends that are still missing. I am praying to God that there are miracles. We always have hope. Without that there isn't anything. I extend my deepest sympathies and prayers to those families who had loved ones that were lost. I just hope that the American Government stands behind what they said "they will get the people responsible for this and any country harboring them".
Survivor
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 04:28:43 (PDT)

Welcome to a new day....Hope today is a good day for all,,
Night Owl
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 01:53:15 (PDT)

Ken, I wish you were the WTC yesterday because everything seems to fly over your head. If you're really that thrilled about what's to come, they have already won. I do hope that the events of yesterday settle in and you come to realize that nothing truly good or satisfying will ever come from this.
Ken Sez is a loser
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 20:33:01 (PDT)

Let's all spare a thought to all the people working around the clock at "ground zero"; all the volunteers who unselfishly put their own lives aside to help others; to all who gave / and who signed up to give blood; those who lent others their cell phones to make a call to loved one's to let them know we were ok; and to all the FDNY, NYPD, NYDS, NYEMS, & hospital staff who are pushing well over 24 straight hours of work. As the President & Rudy said: "We WILL NOT be HELD DOWN." God Bless America.
George
Jersey Shore Area, NJ USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 20:07:01 (PDT)

Please let us know about kimber.
kimber fan
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 20:02:36 (PDT)

JM85....Email me at fortishonly@aol.com, I'll try to call Kimber for you! Does she work at the WTC?
USA
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 19:11:51 (PDT)

Anyone hear from KIMBER? Please post if you know she is okay. I can't get calls to Queens at this time.
JM85
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 18:44:19 (PDT)

Johnny - Gee that's a nice speech. Does it make you feel like a GOOD person to give that speech. Well that's all right if you don't take satisfaction, in the ultimate destruction of these animals. I'll take enough for both of us.
Ken Sez
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 16:58:23 (PDT)

@#*&^+$?
fan of flanagan
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 16:54:28 (PDT)

Brian Flangan: What is that supposed to mean!! Suck it up, this is the way the rest of the world acts, so we should get used to it!!!!! President Bush and/or Congress have all, all possible investigations on going. The US of A will get to the bottom of this terriorist act and we will get justice. Keep you eye on the sky Brian, maybe not this week, or that soon, but I'm sure they are getting closer to the answers needs. Keep your eye on the sky and just watch us.
Reenie
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 16:03:45 (PDT)

Hey Flanagan - Are you really rationalizing what they did???? Take that speech, and after you get it back out of your ass, go downtown somewhere and spew it in public, with some people listening. I'll be glad to give your eulogy.
Ken Sez
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 15:19:11 (PDT)

flanagan-- it appears as if you feel correct in defending these savages. Go hang out in Afghanistan,and in about a month,come back and tell us what you think,if you survive the retaliation.
Anti-Skell
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 14:07:53 (PDT)

Yesterday when I heard about the Palestinian people celebrating, my blood began to boil. Then a few hours later I saw the actual footage and my reaction would better be described as numbness. It's just part of the tragedy to think that these people could rejoice at the death of others. Then it occurred to me that they have been (at least in their minds) at War for over 50 years. And they believe that we as a country are responsible for the loss of their homeland and the countless deaths of their loved ones. They are hardened and even their children have a warrior mentality. Our revenge will be swift, sure and terrible. We will wreak devastation on a massive scale. It is entirely proper that we do so, given the gravity of the attack on our soil yesterday. But let us never, no matter how grand our own sense of loss, ever become a country of people who take joy in death or who celebrate destruction. For most of our history, we have been a peaceful nation and proud of our hesitation to wage war. When Times Square filled with Revelelrs in 1945, they were celebrating a Surrender, not the destruction of Hisoshima and Nagasaki. I know that we all want revenge, and more than a few of us are feeling thirsty for blood, immediately. But when the blood comes, let's not take pride in it. If the United States is reduced to a nation of war mongers, if we take satisfaction in the destruction of our enemies, then that that will be the worst defeat in our long and glorious history.
Johnny <9-11, 911>
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 13:52:00 (PDT)

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/contacts.html
For contact info
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:47:02 (PDT)

I have just read a memo by Mr. Marge's son to his employees. He is the founder/Chairman and CEO of V-SPAN, a video-conferencing network management company. A start-up in 1995 with 3 desks, 1 card table, 2 labtops, 1 analog phone and on black lab. Don't know and won't bore you with numbers now, but they are big. He's been a great success. Motto: Communications..Anyplace@Anytime. This memo has been the best thing I've heard or read since yesterday morning. It actually brought me to tears. Maybe because I know the writer. I'd like to share it: To the V-SPAN Team: In this time of crisis and American tragedy, our first thoughts must be in support of those who have directly been impacted by the horrendous series of events. The world will never be the same. We must also reflect and very strongly resolve to effect change that will lead to harmony among people of the world. That said, we must rigidly defend our freedoms, because to return to "business as usual" is to ignore the reality that we are under siege. Get involved, listen, and take personal action to effect change! V-SPAN'S infrastructure was not and has not been affected adversely in any way by the attack. V-SPAN's services will be integrel to how the worlds' people and businesses react to the situation, communicate and continue on from here. We at V-SPAN will be called upon to take on significantly increased volume levels in the coming weeks and months for our customers. By personally performing with excellence during this time, V-SPAN can make a contribution to the way the world will change. Since yesterday, The FAA has suspended all US air travel. We have also learned that many businesses have banned travel altogether as a matter of safety for employees. V-SPAN will not allow any air travel until October 1, 2001 (except for those who must return to base). We will review this policy thereafter. A formal travel policy will be posted on our web site later this afternoon. Blood drives will be needed as a method of civic support for a number of weeks..this is another way to become involved. Please click on the attached link to find a nearby locatoin. V-SPAN will offer comp time if you give blood (your supervisor will give you the time off). The events of yesterday are of worldwide concern. Let us all remember the spirits of the lives lost...
Marge
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:45:26 (PDT)

Jim of Mineola: That was beautiful. You are a man of great words.
Marge
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:24:06 (PDT)

Help Us-This is opposite from the hope you are looking for,but www.newsday.com has on their webpage a list of the confirmed dead. Presently the list is mostly airline victims and NYFD members.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 11:54:41 (PDT)

HELP US: Unfortunately, there are not a lot of people making it to the hospitals. I fear that we are not going to have the "injuries" that we thought-- they are going to be casualties. Just keep watching the news for updates.
So Sorry
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 11:51:43 (PDT)

Just a few things I would like to say. I had no fear about coming back into Manhattan today ...I don't know if fear was overpowered by anger,shock or disbelief that this really happened.Here in quiet mid-town people are walking around 'normally',but looking closely you can see their faces reveal otherwise. I am 54 and this will add to the list of important events that will be forever stamped in my mind as to just where I was when I 'heard the news'. In 1963 myself and Steve Antonacci were in Dr. Jacoby's office on Forest Parkway getting treatments on our knees when the news of JFK's death came. While in the 59 St. General Motors Building,I heard of the Challenger explosion, the first WTC terrorist attack and the assasination attempt on Pres. Regan.. Several years ago we took my daughter back to college in Salisbury,Md. after her Easter vacation and while stopped at a Friendly Ice Cream in Delaware for breakfast heard the news of the Oklahoma City bombing. Finally and ironically,yesterday I had called my dispatch desk located in Oklahoma City to get my work and she asked if I had recently spoken to my supervivor as NYC had a major crisis developing at the Trade Center. It seems like the human brain will lock in many tragic moments of ones life ...but thankfully if I take an inventory, the wonderful moments overpower these events.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 11:43:11 (PDT)

DOES ANYONE HAVE ACCESS TO THE HOSPITAL LISTS?? WE HAVE FAMILY IN FLA WHO HAVE MOST LIKELY LOST A LOVED ONE, THEY ARE NOT SURE & WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THIS PERSONS NAME ON A LIST (ALL PHONE LINES ARAE BUSY). THEY ARE EN ROUTE TO NYC
HELP US
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 11:11:15 (PDT)

In Washington, State Department officials said off-camera that they have intelligence information that connects the attacks on the twin towers in New York and on the Pentagon to fugitive Saudi millionaire Osama bin Laden.
ABC News
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:52:45 (PDT)

I am sad and fearful that so many high-ranking people speak of retaliation against the perpetrators of yesterday's outrage. I'm just back from a four day conference of concerned citizens in Switzerland, involving Palestinians, Czechs, Poles, Russians, Hungarians, Slavs, Macedonians, Turks, Pakistanis, Congolese, Americans, Germans, English, Irish, etc. We discussed globalisation and the causes of the various conflicts around the globe. The Americans who were present received most criticism. Their defence was uniformly the same; namely that the American people did not know what was being done around the globe in their name. Furthermore, totalitarian materialists had control of both government and media in almost all countries to such an extent that real democracy had been eclipsed. Immensely wealthy, secretive, powerful and ideologically driven minorities had orchestrated most conflicts. The question was put to the Americans as to how many thousands of billions of U.S. dollars had been supplied in aid to Israel. It was classified information. Meanwhile Palestinian women giving birth were being refused passage to hospital and were dying at Israeli checkpoints. There was no education, their houses bulldozed or expropriated, no jobs, no future for Palestinians, and this in their own country! Was it any surprise, we were asked, that there were plenty of suicide bombers?
Brian Flanagan
Ireland , USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:39:09 (PDT)

Keep your fingers crossed...there have been a few survivors found...
Anti-Skell
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:08:08 (PDT)

Dan and Anti-Skell: You've both, and others, have had some nice things to say today, especially you Dan with the prayer. The posting of the story of "Our Flag" was beautiful. I can't tell you how I cried when my sister finally got home last night. She and a co-worker took the ferry to Hoboken, then she took the train to Princeton Junction, then a cab to her car. What a relief. She is feeling today like the day of her husband's funeral. I wanted to just drive up and hug her. I may do that later yet, but while the market is closed, I am in the office manning phones and paperwork, but my heart is not in any of it. I'm having trouble concentating, as are most of us. We have 6 PaineWebber people missing. I have a friend that works for Morgan Stanley Dean Witter (she is the black friend that I spoke of previously that I've known since 1965) that I've emailed and not received a response from yet. I'm getting worried. Her daughter works there too. It seems that Mr. Marge's son and daughter-in-law will have 2 memorial services to attend. The pilot of flight 175 that crashed into the 2nd tower was a former neighbor. Mr. Marge's granddaughters cried after talking to their old friends (the 2 kids left behind). Also, their best friends wife had heard from her husband right after the first tower was hit. He worked on the 104th floor of the 1st tower. He said something happened to the building, he was ok, but trying to get out. They've not heard from him. Oh, these poor, poor people. I can't even imagine the horror of being in those buildings while this was all happening.
Marge
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 08:42:28 (PDT)

Hi Everyone: Well, here we are on the day after the most horrific tragedy our country has seen. This is like 4 major plane crashes, the bombing of Oklahoma City and Pearl Harbor all in one...only worse. We will now go on to protect our Freedoms, as we must, by killing other innocent people, with follow-up retaliation on U.S. soil mostly likely to happen again. When I layed in bed last night, feeling guilty falling asleep, I thought how I'd lost my sense of security in my room and my home because of the incident with our garage. And, I thought how we've all lost our sense of, if not total, security. This is a tragic loss for NY, DC, PA, all the victims, their families, our country, society and the peoples of the world. When will it end, and how? God, only knows while he watches as we destroy ourselves as a civilization, all in the name of....PEACE! Some religious person said this morning that "there is a reason for this and we will find out why and when God is ready for us to know". Hollow words unless we obtain world-wide peace forever. What good reason could there be for all these mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, son's and daughters and friends to be blown away and gone...forever, by power-hungry lunatics. What a world we live in. Like all sadness and loss, hopefully, this too shall pass. However, I'm scared to say, I think we are in for more horrific times. If not right now, someday, sometime, again when we least expect it. I fear they will not go away.
Marge
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 08:24:28 (PDT)

I'm happy to report that my brother made it out of WTC Building 2 yesterday. He & my son-in-law (they were not together) watched in horror as the second plane hit the building. My brother walked to the 59th St. Bridge & to his car in Queens. My son-in-law was lucky enough to drive out & reached home at 4pm. Thank you God!!!
Miss Marie
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 08:22:19 (PDT)

does castro need instructions booklets on how to fly planes written in ARABIC??
curious
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 08:16:41 (PDT)

Anyone think about Cuba? It could be CAstro behind this! Hang your flags Americans! Hang them out with pride, then give blood
Terrorists suck
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 08:12:14 (PDT)

I can remember some parents and grandparents of fellow Woodhavenites broke their backs and constructed those towers with pride.... now they are just dust. Put out your flags, and pray for all!
sorrowful
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 07:46:54 (PDT)

"Is anyone sure this was a Mideast terrorist attack? "......yes. the facts are starting to pour in. we should be dropping bombs within the next 24 hours.
curious
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 07:02:11 (PDT)

BOB C. & ALL- It is now 8 AM and I am back in Manhattan which is deadly quiet this morning. I came in only to see if I was needed to help set up phone systems for command centers,hospitals,etc. The latest news said that between 300-400 firemen and 40-70 cops are still unaccounted for,but no names have been given out of those killed except for a few NYFD top brass and the Catholic FD chaplin. Anyone who has small kids as well as we adults will hopefully learn that the real heros in life are not the whinning multi-millionaires who get paid for hitting or dribbling a ball,but rather the family men who gave their lives in an attempt to rescue others. Keep those prayers coming for all involved in these horrible days ahead.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 05:17:32 (PDT)

Question to the group....Is anyone sure this was a Mideast terrorist attack? I mean, could it be a Timothy McTimmons thing? God, I hope it wasn't one of our people. And if it is a Mideast thing, I hope we have the sense enough to take their entire country(s). Eliminating one or two leaders will only serve to have other maniacs take their place. The way I see it, is to simply wipe out all life in those countries, clean up the mess, and raise our flag. If it was the act of our people, God save us. PS: To all of you: My sympathies. I used to work there, I saw the towers being built and literally spent every working day for 10 years going past, in or around them. I myself, have probably lost a lot of old friends, but that remains to be seen. I'm not trying to preach, but consider this: Before you fight, say or do something to your wife, loved one or family or friends, take a moment to think that it may be the last time you ever see that person. In other words, appreciate life and tell your mate that you love them, everyday. God Bless you all............
Dan
UPSTATE, preparing for Armegeddon, NY USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 02:29:02 (PDT)

Jim - - You ahve my email address, I think. I am a retired Tempe Arizona firefighter and I have a few old friends (sadly I am not in contact with them any more) on the NYC fire dept. I a worried. If you see a list of names of the dead and injured can you pass it along. I don't want to put names on WOL. Thanks Bob C
Bob C.
Phx , AZ USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 21:44:56 (PDT)

Jim of Mineola - - Heard from Ken that you work in the WTC area. Glad to see you here at WOL and sounding fine. Have checked up on all of our (Rosemary and me) familiy members still in NYC they are all fine including the NYPD members. Was quie worried until we were able to contact my son who works in Manhattan. Hope to keep hearing good news on WOL and tha all are well and safe.
Bob C
Phx, AZ USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 21:38:32 (PDT)

C78---Focus...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 20:34:41 (PDT)

Looking at TV pictures,things look extremly bleak, but we have to hold out some hope that survivors are sitting there in air pockets under the WTC rubble weather they are civilians,NYFD or NYPD. Offer many prayers tonight for all concerned.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 20:06:19 (PDT)

I have lost numerous friends and co-workers today. I am typing because there is nothing else for me to do but watch the carnage. It is all so damn senseless.
Buster
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 19:46:22 (PDT)

Anyone hear from PAM. She works for AMEX which is right there by the twin towers
Chaos
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 19:04:10 (PDT)

C78! My god, I have thought about you so many times today. I knew you were in the WTC years ago during the bombing. Mrs. Kravitz and I were talking about you today. Glad to hear you are well! God be with us
Terrorists suck
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 18:56:37 (PDT)

After living thru the 93 bombing (my brother and sister were there) the same sister had to leave building 7 today which later collapased. Don't fight people, no one asked who was that area today, evil touches everyone. Thank God we're all safe and can write our opinions here. Too many people are waiting to hear about loved ones. I'm truly grateful for the people here who showed concern and happy you are all safe! My husband gave blood today and everyone should try to do the same.
USA
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 18:48:04 (PDT)

JM85 - thank you for your kind thoughts. Please say a prayer for all the people who lost their lives today.
c78
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 18:28:54 (PDT)

C78-Thank God you are allright. I have been praying for you all day!! Along with all those other poor people. No one will come out of this with out loosing someone, be it a family member or friend. What a horrible day.
JM85
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 18:26:03 (PDT)

Anti-Skell, say it ain't so! Almost 300 of our uniformed personnel KIA? (I've got a special place in my heart for firefighters, and the police are OK in my book, too). Now, I must take offense at your characterization of Liberals. I am a bleeding heart, tax-and spend Liberal to the core. I also happen to be a survivor of the first World Trade Center bombing on Feb. 26, 1993. Leftist Liberals, as a rule, do not condone mixing church and state. These fanatics who have twice attacked that architectural nightmare of the Twin Towers are more Conservative than Liberal- my way or the highway is their mantra. Whoever commited these crimes today should be locked up in Federal prison for the rest of their natural lives. And please, anyone in NY or DC, please donate blood.
c78
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 18:17:19 (PDT)

Ken D ...........Calm down. They will pay. It's guaranteed. Pay no mind to the mindless...don't let them bother you. Aint'cha glad ya moved outta Woodhaven? My best wishes and love to your Mom & Sis....
Dan
UPSTATE, NY USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:50:22 (PDT)

This has nothing to do with liberalism, conservatism, republicans, democrats. This is all about a bunch of fanatic America hating bastards in the mid-east, who need to be buried. Never thought i'd find myself quoting Kruschev, but WE WILL BURY YOU!!!!!!!!!
Ken Sez
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:44:09 (PDT)

A.S., Disregard my last post (the 1st part, that is). I actually took the time to READ it and decided you weren't referring to me.
Dan
UPSTATE, awaiting 6 months of snow., NY USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:36:00 (PDT)

A.S....Are you calling me a religious fanatic? I was just offering a prayer....nothing more. Belive me, I am MAD AS HELL, but arguing amongst eachother won't solve a thing. What we need to do is flatten the mid-east and add a star or two to Old Glory. Make the mid ead "Club Med-East", with all the oil we want. And yes, I do believe in a higher being and I still PRAY. Hope you and your family are well,
Dan
UPSTATE, NY USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:32:02 (PDT)

Let's not forget that the other horrific attack on U.S. soil was conducted by Right-wing Gun-loving, government fearing lunatics. And we don't know who comitted this one yet.
TM
Okalahoma City, OK USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:26:13 (PDT)

As far as I am concerned,Yasser Arafart, Osama bin Looser, and their lackeys, can bend over backwards and kiss their rubbery old arses goodbye.
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:18:52 (PDT)

Liberals,shmiberals...I agree liberals are anal retentive blowhards, but this is not caused by liberals--this is caused by alleged religious fanatics who worship nothing but hate...why don't you channel your indignation positively towards the plight of the 200+ firefighters,78+ police officers, and probably several thousand civilians who were murdered today,and also their devastated families.All of you...GROW UP...That goes for everybody...including those of you I like and respect.
Anti-Skell <nukethesavages@diaperhead.whack>
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:15:55 (PDT)

Dear Heavenly Father, Lord God Almighty; Please give us the strength to deal with this unbearable sorrow that now surrounds us. We beg you to bless the souls and comfort the families of the brave men and women who selflessly gave their lives to save their fellow man. Lord God, guide our government and President to make the correct decisions and help them to give us faith in their leadership. Lord, thank you for reminding us that some of the ones who have done this unspeakable act are, at this very moment, facing You and Your wrath. We ask that they be given the same mercy as they gave Your children. Please let this tragedy remind us that we are all an eye-blink away from eternity, and help us to choose our words wisely - when dealing with loved ones. Bless the rescuers as they fight to save Your children, and receive, with open arms, the innocent souls and the ones that have accepted the Word of God. We ask this in Jesus precious name, Amen.
Dan
BERNE, NY USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:06:06 (PDT)

PLEASE people don't fight ...WE have to be UNITED...We are the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.....This has to do with many things not just one thing.
Wise Guy
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 16:38:51 (PDT)

this has everything to do with politics, the bleeding hearts of this great country think it is still 1950. The new wave of immergrints hate This Land and try to destroy it any way they can. If you think it has nothing to do with polictics you are only fooling yourselfs. GOD BLESS AMERICA!
America for Americans
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 16:30:00 (PDT)

Anyone who would try to politicize this event is a pitiful, sorry soul. I will try to find room in my prayers for you. Anyone who can be so cynical and jaded in the face of unparalleled tragedy obviously has some deep, deep problems. Donate your blood. All of it.
America the Beatiful
Omaha, NE USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 16:21:53 (PDT)

Anyone who would try to politicize this event is a pitiful, sorry soul. I will try to find room in my prayers for you. Anyone who can be so cynical and jaded in the face of unparalleled tragedy obviously has some deep, deep problems. Donate your blood. All of it.
America the Beatiful
Omaha, NE USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 16:21:37 (PDT)

Liberalism has nothing to do with this disaster.
check that out again.
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 15:33:24 (PDT)

I hope all you liberals are happy, this is what happens when you open the boarders to these bastards. If you speak out against immergration you are called a racist.Every store you go into where these towel heads work fund these attacks. Don't give them your money, don't get in their cabs or let them do work in your home.
America First
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 15:08:54 (PDT)

Meanwhile, let's just level the country that houses these bastards!!!!!!
Ken Sez
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 14:59:25 (PDT)

Jim B - glad you are safe pal. That also goes to everyone else who escaped disaster. I'm sure it will be quite a while until everyone who is, or might be, more personally touched by this, gets confirmation, one way or the other. We can only imagine how you might feel. Our thoughts are with you.
Ken Sez
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 14:57:56 (PDT)

What a nightmare! I was at the airport when it all happened and all hell broke loose because we had several departures which could have become the next hijack victims. All flights returned and cancelled. Manhattanites had no idea where to go. Not to mention out of towners. My kids all have kids in their classes whose parents work there. One lady said her husband called her from the 109th floor after the 2 planes crashed and said he couldn't get down, then the building collapsed. God help us all.
Mary
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 14:47:19 (PDT)

I AM THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA I am the flag of the United States of America. My name is Old Glory. I fly atop the world's tallest buildings. I stand watch in America's halls of justice. I fly majestically over institutions of learning. I stand guard with power in the world. Look up and see me. I stand for peace, honor, truth and justice. I stand for freedom. I am confident. I am arrogant. I am proud. When I am flown with my fellow banners, my head is a little higher, my colors a little truer. I bow to no one! I am recognized all over the world. I am worshipped - I am saluted. I am loved - I am revered. I am respected - and I am feared. I have fought in every battle of every war for more then 200 years. I was flown at Valley Forge, Gettysburg, Shiloh and Appomattox. I was there at San Juan Hill, the trenches of France, in the Argonne Forest, Anzio, Rome and the beaches of Normandy, Guam. Okinawa, Korea and KheSan, Saigon, Vietnam know me, I was there. I led my troops, I was dirty, battleworn and tired, but my soldiers cheered me, and I was proud. I have been burned, torn and trampled on the streets of countries I have helped set free. It does not hurt, for I am invincible. I have been soiled upon, burned, torn and trampled on the streets of my country. And when it's by those whom I've served in battle -- it hurts. But I shall overcome -- for I am strong. I have slipped the bonds of Earth and stood watch over the uncharted frontiers of space from my vantage point on the moon. I have borne silent witness to all of America's finest hours. But my finest hours are yet to come. When I am torn into strips and used as bandages for my wounded comrades on the battlefield; when I am flown at half-mast to honor my soldier; or when I lie in the trembling arms of a grieving parent at the grave of their fallen son or daughter, I am proud. MY NAME IS OLD GLORY LONG MAY I WAVE. DEAR GOD IN HEAVEN: LONG MAY I WAVE.
American
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 13:25:50 (PDT)

to all .... stay the course. god bless your families and our country.
rich
vero beach, USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 13:24:10 (PDT)

Yasseree,Yasser,you are a flaming arsehole...your face is on each and every piece of my toilet paper...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 13:04:29 (PDT)

Also,last,but certainly not least,I am glad you are all safe---well,the overwhelmingly vast majority of you,anyway...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 13:02:58 (PDT)

My thoughts ??? These mutants should have checked with Japan about what happens when someone tweaks our collective noses...history repeats itself...I will be absolutely befuddled if Afghanistan and the other safe harbors for these animals remains on the face of the earth by the end of the month.Don't delude yourselves--this is not the end of this on either side...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 13:00:37 (PDT)

Three Palestinian groups -- Hamas, the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine and Islamic Jihad -- deny responsibility for the attacks, but blame U.S. policies in the Mideast.
Things that make you go HMMMMMMMMMMM
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 12:42:14 (PDT)

I agree Mont
What a dirtbag
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 12:37:21 (PDT)

Whoever wrote the Arafat/Real estate post is the lowest form of life on earth! Why don't you just flush yourself down the bowl!
The Mont
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 12:16:00 (PDT)

Hi,it's me. Jim & Tish, glad you're ok. I've spoken to my sister several times and she's ok now. We were both crying together on the phonoe. I was so glad to hear her voice. she's still stuck there and they went out and got food too. Everything seems ok in Woodhaven. Mr. Marge's son's old neighbor in Yardley, pa was a pilot on one of the planes that was hyjacked and crashed. He is now in Princeton with their closes friends wife who's husband works (worked?) at the WTC on the top floors. They've not heard from him yet. There were actually bodies flying out of the WTC before they went down. When people talked to their loved ones, you could hear screaming in the background. Some said that they were dying up there. This had to be inside jobs with the airline employees. How else could alll those terrorists have gotten on the planes with all those guns. We can't even get on with a belt or camera. Mr. Marge and I went out and stocked up some on food and he got some cash out of the bank. We are trying to find out where to donate blood and we may offer our new truck for use if needed. I just can't wait to get my sister back to her home. This is so awful there are no words to express how horrific this really is. Peace...what an illusive dream it is. Our poor children that have to live through this disgust. Dear God, those poor victims..those poor families.
Marge
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 11:31:45 (PDT)

http://web.knoxnews.com/web/kns/news/breaking/wtc/index.html
Take a walking tour......
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:51:13 (PDT)

unreal, tish? i just read someone's observations from nyc-- they were walking around the upper west side noticing that people are eating in cafes, shopping, la de da......surreal is more like it.
curious
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:31:30 (PDT)

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Terrorists suck
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:29:51 (PDT)

Glad you are fine too, Jim. If you find out the subways are up, let me know. My nerves are still too jangley to take nap, but oh how I wish I didn't have to see anymore horror. I am holding my breath for the rest of the country. Stay away from Times Square.
Tish
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:27:08 (PDT)

Because I have to laugh and because I am all cried out right now, listen to this... I decide to call out and have some provisions sent in for the people that are staying here and for their friends and relatives that are on the way out of downtown to my office. I told my receptionist to call out for boxed cereal, more milk and soymilk, cheese, fruit etc. They just delivered BEAUTIFUL trays of cheese and crackers with various fruits and breads. UNREAL! Only in the middle of a holocaust/war can you get such pretty things. Manhattan sure knows how to keep its class under the worst circumstances! In general, we have nice music playing now, and I see evidence of beer around. People are trying to relax and it is hard to do while all this is on TV. Even harder to look out our windows. Keep hearing jets overhead and so help me, I duck a little when they are over me. I may never feel safe when a plane is overhead again.
Tish
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:25:12 (PDT)

Tish- Glad you are fine. I am up here near 50 St. and it is the strangest sight looking down 5 Ave and only seeing smoke where I saw the WTC for the last 30 years. People are pouring in and out of St. Patricks and St. Barts Churches. Time for many prayers for all involved and their relatives and friends.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:20:10 (PDT)

i can not believe that the twin towers are gone---i am, of course, devastated for the loss of life- but as a native new yorker, the fact that our skyline has been so violently altered breaks my heart. now i hear the the palestenians are saying they did not do it-- SO WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS!! please, let them step up and take a bow before we blow them and all their people into obliviation.
curious
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:15:28 (PDT)

Marge is OK- I got an e-mail from her about 10:15. She was then trying to reach her sister who works in Manhattan.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:14:13 (PDT)

Thanks curious. I am in Soho. I can walk to the Trade Center (rubble) from my office. I appreciate your kindness. Still holed up here for a while with all the remaining Queens workers, and a couple of NJ ones too. Keeping slightly sane by writing. I will tell you something, AOL sucks in my book. Down 99 times out of 100 on average, but today they are aces! I am IMing with friends and co workers all over the country. Our phone lines are down but the internet rocks!
Tish
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:11:12 (PDT)

glad you are ok, tish- even if it is just physically. what a nightmare. where in nyc are you located?
curious
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:59:52 (PDT)

Everything is closed. Power was cut to the subway on my corner when the second plane crashed. Loads of people that live in Brooklyn are walking together home. We Queens folk are staying here for a while. I remember reading that lots of people went to Central Park the first time the WTC was hit in 1993. Of course, every alert is out for other congested Manhattan spots, like Times Square. Watching tv with everyone and seeing all the amusement parks in the country being closed - even the Mall of American.
Tish
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:52:48 (PDT)

Just came from outside. A few delis near my office. Shelves are cleaned out, but there was still some stuff around. The wind changed while I was walking and the smoke, and the smell, are awful. Squads of cops walking the streets, likewise the downtown/Wall Streeters walking past me on their way uptown. The sky is blue and the weather is pretty and this is the worst day I have ever seen in my life. It IS a war zone and so deeply sad and in the back of my mind, frightened at how powerless I am. And you?
Tish
Had to make a joke!, USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:46:38 (PDT)

tish- are you still online?? what is happening now?
curious
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:38:29 (PDT)

"It takes a logistics operation from the terror group involved that is second to none. Only a very small handful of terror groups is on that list. ... I would name at the top of the list Osama Bin Laden."
NY Daily News
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:03:42 (PDT)

Any one close to the city please donate BLOOD...I here all bridges into and out of city are closed.
Wise Guy
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:03:08 (PDT)

God bless them ALL.....
Wise Guy
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:01:17 (PDT)

Marge? Has anyone heard from Marge? What are your thoughts Skell?
terrorists suck
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:01:01 (PDT)

Marge? Has anyone heard from Marge? What are your thoughts Skell?
terrorists suck
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:00:55 (PDT)

My son officially swore in at Fort Hamilton Army Base in Brooklyn at 6:00 A.M. this morning. If you find it in your hearts, say a prayer for soldiers, police and firemen.
Buster
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 08:48:18 (PDT)

donate blood! go go go donate blood
terrorists suck
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 08:36:09 (PDT)

Can't leave the city. Just looking out my window and seeing smoke rise where the buildings used to be. Thanks to all of you for the prayers you sent me. It means a lot. My prayers are to the family and friends still here, and especially the ones working the disaster. Lots of cops and fireman working hard. God bless and help them all.
Tish
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 08:36:02 (PDT)

3rd plane chashed into penagon
news
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:57:19 (PDT)

Large plane crash in western Pa. summit county
news
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:51:43 (PDT)

God help us all!!!!
Reenie
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:48:08 (PDT)

omg...both buildings down.......
curious
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:43:13 (PDT)

God be with them....
.
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:34:50 (PDT)

Man your guns
Veteran
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:20:04 (PDT)

other tower appears to be leaning
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:08:59 (PDT)

Man your guns
Veteran
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:08:01 (PDT)

All of you who are of draft age...hold onto your bootstraps...I wonder if the use of localized, tactical nukes for retaliation is outside of the realms of possibility...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:07:50 (PDT)

Man your guns
Veteran
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:07:48 (PDT)

All of you who are of draft age...hold onto your bootstraps...I wonder if the use of localized, tactical nukes for retaliation is outside of the realms of possibility...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:58:26 (PDT)

The Washington Mall
Please pray
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:55:48 (PDT)

wol rep fan---One should expect that given your choice of whom you support,one would hope you don't frequent OTB,for, you are a natural,dyed in the wool,born loser...I STRONGLY suggest you also have an octagon shaped room available for your own,personal use...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:55:13 (PDT)

Might be a 3rd airplane inbound
B
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:55:08 (PDT)

The Pentagon was also attacked...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:49:04 (PDT)

Pentagon hit by airplane...........West coast.....Heads up
Damn
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:47:28 (PDT)

American airlines 757 from boston hit WT2
.
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:45:14 (PDT)

People.....If you know of any people that are from woodhaven that are ok?..PLEASE POST THE NAMES
Come on
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:43:51 (PDT)

Enough of our useless banter.Anyone who hasn't heard 2 planes were hijacked this morning and crashed into both towers of the World Trade Center.
Jim of Mineloa
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:39:01 (PDT)

Fucking arabs......Mother Fuckers
Nuke Them
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:37:59 (PDT)

OMG- what the hell happened at the WORLD TRADE CENTER????
curious
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:29:10 (PDT)

Is everyone all right.....Please God let everyone from Woodhaven be all right...
Everyone check in
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:25:09 (PDT)

WOL rep- Now that we have archives available for the last 3 months ,could you give us the date and times of the 'useful' posts that you claim to have written. We may have missed your prize winning comments and I'm sure we would all like to share in your great contributions to WOL.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:12:46 (PDT)

You boys had better behave!
The Teacher
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 05:42:28 (PDT)

WOL REP - As I indicated on my first post, my name is Richard Madison and I live in Williston Park. I have just left a real, working EMail address as I did on my first post. I am not hiding behind my cutesy nickname `the Mont', a name I received at F.K. Lane. Now that I have told you a little about myself, how about revealing a little bit about yourself? We'd like to know!
The Mont <RAM999@APEXMAIL.COM>
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 04:58:58 (PDT)

As an impartial lurker, I have to say that the Wol rep has made some good points. I can't figure out those Ken Sez posts either! Who is this Anit-Skell person to criticize others when he writes nonsense notes to himself? I say keep up the good work, Wol Rep!
Wol Rep fan
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 04:58:23 (PDT)

SKELLATOR--Who said it and what flick? "There you go with that wishing stuff again.I wish i was a wishing well so i can tie a bucket to ya and sink ya."
Mickster <celluloid hero's .com>
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 04:49:42 (PDT)

Wol Rep = This board is not a zero-sum situation. I'm gonna explain that so even you understand it. That means that my friends and I can go back and forth like War and Peace, and there will still be as much space left on WOL for you as if we were never here. So don't worry about us using up to much space. Tks for the support Anti-Skell!!!!
Ken Sez
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 04:10:19 (PDT)

Oops !!! What time is it ???
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 00:23:15 (PDT)

It is getting......late...and it is time for murder in the red barn...
Anti-Skell
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 23:12:49 (PDT)

Also, how about "Anna,The Frog Eyed Bananna"...???
Anti-Skell
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 23:08:13 (PDT)

Does anybody know " The Frog Eyed Feret " ???
Anti-Skell <eoeoeoeoeoeoeoeo@eoeoeoeoeoeoeo.com>
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 23:07:11 (PDT)

Go Denver---Snap,crackle,pop !!! Ahhh, the sound of McCaffrey's leg being crushed like so many grapes in a wine press...I guess Denver really is gone now...
Anti-Skell <wheresmyleg@itsupmyarse.com>
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 23:03:05 (PDT)

wol rep.....As you seem to revel in your self ordained fantasy title,"wol rep",it is painfully apparent that you are an embittered,lonely,outcast from society...But...all is not lost !!! You can sit in an octagon shaped room,lined with mirrors on all sides, and be the center of attention of your very own dope ring !!!
Anti-Skell <woeisyou@yousmelllikepoo.nut>
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 22:58:33 (PDT)

My posts are at least as useful as those by Ken "Sez", The "Mont", and Jim. Face it guys, when you write to each other in your cutesy (not "cutsy" Jim) this board becomes your private chatroom... why not take it private instead of killing the board?
WOL Rep
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 22:45:26 (PDT)

YES THE LINE FORMS ON THE RIGHT BABE!!! NOW THAT MACKY'S BACK IN TOWN!!!! Here's to you B.D. That will always be your song!!!!!!!!! Gnite WOL - As for WOL rep, Make like Puff and slip back into your cave!!!!!!!!
Ken Sez
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 20:10:39 (PDT)

Has anyone ever seen a positive or useful post by this newly listed person called WOL rep ? Or are you truly a brilliant poster who is hiding his identity?
Jim of Mineola
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 19:18:48 (PDT)

Mmmmmm,WOL rep ....what a cutsy name. I hope someday you will let us in on the deep meaning of that name.You don't want to be rude and keep us guessing. Do you think some of the posts this afternoon were a little more rude than ours?
Jim of Mineola
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 19:12:21 (PDT)

Denver 7 Giants 0 end of the 1st quater
Go Denver
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 18:45:11 (PDT)

GO BIG BLUE
GIANTS #1
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 18:05:16 (PDT)

Wol Rep - If a little banter between some friends that haven't heard from each other for 30 yrs bothers you, I feel for you. But were not gonna stop, so go slip into your little corner of the world, and watch with green eyed envy as old and true friends revel in each other. Then go out and try to actually make some friends instead of begrudging those that have.
Ken Sez
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 17:25:38 (PDT)

As you may have seen, we have archived the guestbook by month. Perhaps we should add another archive for posts by or to anyone calling themselves "SEZ".
WOL Rep
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 15:28:03 (PDT)

Items of interest to only 3 members with references to things no one else knows about is rude on a public board. Using cutesy names ("The Mont") doesn't help.
WOL Rep
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 15:26:31 (PDT)

Never mind!!! Any inside joke that involves The Mont or Jim i'm proud to be part of. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ken Sez
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 13:45:06 (PDT)

WOL REP - I was gonna let it go, but since you put it out there. Pray tell - WHAT INSIDE JOKE ARE YOU CONNECTING ME WITH???????????
Ken Sez
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 13:33:38 (PDT)

Candy-Gram ---Do you mean to tell us that sharks are prejudiced against Puerto Ricans ??? How come there are no reported attacks around Puerto Rico ???
Anti-Skell <shtickittoyou@skellzone.com>
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 13:32:49 (PDT)

If you think it's been an embarrassing summer for Gary Condit or Little League baseball, think of the poor shark. One shark ripped an arm off a boy in Florida. A second destroyed a swimmer's leg in the Bahamas. A third inflicted a fatal 17-inch gash on a boy in Virginia. A fourth killed a man in North Carolina and tore off his girlfriend's foot. There have been dozens of lesser attacks, but you get the picture. Sharks have a PR problem.
Candy-Gram
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 13:28:38 (PDT)

Three of my favorite groups were ...Ram Jam.....The Moron Tabernacle Choir, and of course, The SkellTones...
Anti-Skell <toonzrus@skelltones.com>
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 13:26:13 (PDT)

Hey, stay off my territory.
Sloppy
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 13:22:48 (PDT)

j.b.--You sound upset,thou possessed of a slack jaw and pencil neck...begone,thou slathering whithered clotpole...And, by the way, are you sure your name isn't " b.j." ???
Anti-Skell <blahblahblahblahblahblah@arseholeuare.com>
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 13:21:04 (PDT)

I'm baaack! Had a great vacation even though it was sad visiting Mr. Marge's brother and sister-in-law at the nursing home in Ohio. Got home Tues 9:30 p.m. and left Wed mid day for St. Michael's, MD and stayed at the Tilghman Island Inn. Had a great relaxing time. Biked 24 mi. and took ferry to Oxford, walked Easton and St. Michael's. Had great dinners, sat by the pool, swam and drank too much. Some notes: Thank you to Nostalgic for the great compliments. KEN SEZ: I too loved Bobby Darin and Mack The Knife is one of my all-time favorites. I go nuts when I hear it and sing-a-long. Mr. Marge laughs. You guys mentioned the group Yess. My sister saw them at Madison Square Garden in their Symphonic Tour. Said it was terrific. Dan: One of my favorite sing-a-long and feel good songs is Up On The Roof. Speaking of Roy Orbison. Had dinner last winter at a friends house with some other guests who all had to be in their late 50's to early 60's and after dinner he put on the video of the concert with Springstein and a whole bunch of other big performers (help me here Jim) and we were all singing and lovin' it. It was about 12:30-1 a.m. and snowing outside like crazy, but we didn't care. We watched that video until it was over at around 1:30. Nothin' like that old feel good music.
Marge
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 13:17:52 (PDT)

Ooops-- meant to say that my first entry should be sung to the tune of "Stormy Weather".
Sloppy
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 12:52:25 (PDT)

After 1 month, I'm finally able to get back into the website. What happened to all the regulars? Marge - how was your vacation? Did you go somewhere exciting? Jim - glad you had a great time at "Cookie's" son's wedding. Yes, my ears were burning that weekend. Bet you, Cathy, & Cookie had lots to catch up on. Bob C. - don't know Rosemary - just from what Jim B told me in the past. She sounds super. Glad you found her. The only connection we have is that we both went to St. Sylvester's. I was only there for 1 ½ years then on to STA. Last week on cable they were showing clips on Metro NY from Queens. Was surprised to see the old "Roosevelt" Theater. Didn't think anyone remembered it. Also the Keats & Valencia theaters. Jahns of course, but mostly clips from the Bayside area, including the 2 World's Fairs in Flushing. Brought back many memories.
Miss Marie
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 12:40:43 (PDT)

I luv Anti-Skell..I luv Anti-Skell
Alice the Goon
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 12:37:35 (PDT)

Feeling like a dead duck...
J.T.
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 12:18:03 (PDT)

my weekend was wonderful-thanks for asking. and yours?
curious
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:26:37 (PDT)

Welcome back curious. How was your weekend?
Dave
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 10:51:39 (PDT)

what the......??????
curious
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 10:35:51 (PDT)

Anti-skell....what a real loser. I simply asked if anyone on this site still shares old memories or are all of the posts(for the most part) ridiculous.But a jerk like you has to be sarcastic and think he's being funny. I guess this site is now for losers like you that have no friends and were picked on their whole lives and probably still are. come and lie to each other and act successful and rich.Well heres news for you..if you have accomplished so much and are so well off,you are afraid to say who you are.Anyone who is successful, has enough confidence in themselves to say who they really are.So I guess that blows all of your lies out of the water. And to all of the visitors who come to this site for the right reasons...GOOD LUCK
J.B
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 09:02:25 (PDT)

WOL rep,this is all public useless information for all to enjoy. Please join all 3 of us 25+ year Woodhaven residents in this banter.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 08:41:50 (PDT)

WOL Rep: No inside joke intended - Don Ameche starred in the cinema classic 'The Story of Alexander Graham Bell'
The Mont
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 08:22:24 (PDT)

Can we take up a collection for Jim, Ken Sez, and The Mont and buy them a chatroom so they can share their inside jokes?
WOL Rep
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 08:14:34 (PDT)

Jimbo - Don't try to kid me - We all know Don Ameche invented the telephone!
The Mont
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 07:32:51 (PDT)

MONT- The reason that the suicide rate south of the Mason-Dixon line is higher is because of that 'real country' music. It's downright depressing,almost as bad as real Irish folk music. But when I listen to Shania's CD in my car, I feel very happy. Yes officer, you are stopping me because I'm driving with this silly grin on my face. KEN- You better stock up on Dylan's music before he totally loses it. In an interview in today's papers about Bob's new CD he says he was put on this earth to write music the same as the Wright brothers were put here to invent the airplane and Edison was put here to invent the telephone. Bob, Edison was the electric guy ...An Alexander Bell had something to do with the phones. Just think, Wall Street would have had to call ATT ,Ma Edison, instead.
Jim of Mineoloa
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 07:22:29 (PDT)

Ken Sez, Jimbo - Stop this bickering! This is country: George Jones-HE STOPPED LOVING HER TODAY, Don Gibson-SEA OF HEARTBREAK, Vern Gosdin-DO YOU BELIEVE ME NOW, David Allan Coe-YOU NEVER EVEN CALL ME BY MY NAME. I could go on and on! (Ed. Note: you already have)This is country! not that new stuff. I am proud to have these songs on my personal real jukebox at work (I think they are paying me to compile this!)
The Mont
USA - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 05:09:47 (PDT)

i'd rather talk about the great music we were privledged
tom conway <tconway@cnetech.com>
hanford, ca USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 20:41:24 (PDT)

ATTICA.....ATTICA.....
30 years ago
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 20:24:22 (PDT)

KEN- I do like older women now. Just ask my wife ... Joan,put my good Ed Kranepool autographed bat down,pleeeze. We have a very adult relationship going .. if Shania calls for me,I can go out with her ... if Barry Manilow calls for Joan she can go out with him.(McCartney is spoken for again.) TOM-TOM C.-Please repost your e-mail address,the other one is bogus dude.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 18:46:53 (PDT)

Jim - Your kidding right? I know your kidding, 'cause I know you Jim. Your kidding right? You know, I wouldn't mind the likes of Shania and Faith, because they are so easy to look at. If they would just NOT! call it country music. "Cause it's NOT country music. It's pop. Pure lightweight Pot. Only thing that makes it different from Britney Spears is that they're older. But I don't know why I wrote all this Jim 'cause I know you were just kidding. Right?????????????????
Ken Sez
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 18:07:10 (PDT)

Hey Marshall's guys,let's all welcome Tom Conway who posted a hello last night from California. TOM-Check your e-mail. Ken,Dan,and Mickster you are all getting so deep with Dylan,Plant and Moby Grape can't any of you appreciate Shania Twain. Even if you go deaf,you can read her lyrics and look at her pictures.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 17:21:24 (PDT)

ZAPPA.....HOT RATS...WILLIE THE PIMP. Hot Rats; an early Frank Zappa album. Very Chicago-esque, with fusion-ish-jazz overtones and blues. A must listen for anyone that is seriously into music. Thank you and good night.....
Dan
UPSTATE, NY USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 17:10:22 (PDT)

Mont - I also agree with you on the anthology CD. It is one of the best CD's I own also.
Ken Sez
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 14:13:17 (PDT)

Mick - I listened to the CD on the way to the Golf Course today and believe it or not listened to My Back Pages at least 4 times. It gives me goosebumps, when Harrison, chimes in. What a great song. Imagine, having THAT cast of players gathering to sing your songs. Words fail me. Mont, Rivers always plays here when he tours, and his show is good. I am a Big J.R. fan. I think his album Realization is one of the unheralded GREAT, GREAT, albums from the 60's (69), and his Whiter Shade Of Pale, off of that album (also on the anthology) is as great, I think, as the original. More Later!
Ken Sez
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 14:11:40 (PDT)

Mike G, Mr. Jimbo, Prince Valiant and Sez: You know who I really want to see and he never comes to NY? Johnny Rivers! I hear he does great shows and sounds as good as he ever did, but plays state fairs, etc. His Anthology on Rhino is one of the greatest CDs I own. Speaking of Dion, my all time favorite by him is `Sandy' a song that never gets played on Oldies radio but ranks up there with his best.
The Mont
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 09:31:57 (PDT)

A fellow Jets lover/sufferer! Opening game today and Mr. Tish and our girl should be pulling into the parking lot now (season tickets). I will watch from the couch and pray for luck this season. Oh the pain!
Tish
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 09:00:00 (PDT)

yes Ken i would have shot my way in to the Garden that night.And Clapton did bring down the house.I was kinda hoping for WILBURYS to perform and that did not happen.But we can argue who sounded better and all that but i think you would agree if you were there that when CLAPTON,NEILYOUNG,ROGER MCGUINN,TOM PETTY AND DYLAN AND OTHERS ALL TOOK A TURN ON THE LEAD AND VOCALS ON MY BACK PAGES NOW THAT MADE A GUY CRY.Another highlight for me was waiting a turn on stage in the dark you seen nothing but a hat and then the spotlight went on and you seen a sawed off guitar and JOHNNY WINTER walked out and took us all down to "HIGHWAY61".IVE seen hundreds of shows literally and that is a stand out.Another similar one i was fortunate enough to be at was when all types of blues artists played the garden for JOHN LEE HOOKERS birthday.
mickster <speedo736@aol.com>
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 08:38:40 (PDT)

^You wanna talk about an oldie that still thrills the audience and hits the notes,better than he ever did i think. I try to catch him whenever he is around.LOU CHRISTIE is still the man the guy is ageless.spellcheck on the name.
Mickster <Two faces have Iiiiiiiiiiiii ahhhhh iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii@gypsy cried .com>
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 08:29:47 (PDT)

J.E.T.S
JETS,JETS,JETS
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 07:20:12 (PDT)

C U people later in the day. I'm off for some self flaggelation (golf). I'm gonna go somewhere, give a person I don't know a bunch of my money, have a miserable time, and at the end of the day give a bunch of people I DO know a bunch of my money. How crazy is that? Ah Golf!!! What a wonderful sport!!
Ken Sez
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 07:03:51 (PDT)

Mick - Glad I have a witness on that CD. It is Absolutely awsome. Can't believe you were lucky enough to be there. Clapton's Don't Think Twice still brings tears to my eyes, it's so good.
Ken Sez
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 07:00:19 (PDT)

Mike - Johnny Maestro is still one of the best and puts on a great show. The best of all the old dudes still around is Little Anthony who still sounds like he is 17 and hits all the notes.
The Mont
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 06:52:34 (PDT)

`Two Beer' Tom - Sorry, but The Slash and I are prohibited by law from speaking to yo until Christmas Days!
The MONT
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 06:35:27 (PDT)

That cd is awesome.I myself had the privledge to be there.Some highlights never made the cd.There were so many artists there.one 0f my fave's was George Thourogood singing one of my favorite slow tunes called Wanted Man.Now up until right then i did not even know that was Dylans song,but he did write it.Stevie Wonder rendition of BLOWIN IN THE WIND was also no less than magnificent......so many others.
Mickster <LILY,ROSEMARY AND THE JACK OF HEARTS.COM>
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 03:01:11 (PDT)

Sittin' in the park, waitin' for you oo oo oo oo - Billy Stewart circa 1961
Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 22:30:44 (PDT)

Sitting on the park bench
eyeing little girls
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 20:24:01 (PDT)

Yes Dan - I've heard that complaint 'bout Bob's voice, and I understand it. I myself, am very comfortable with his voice, kind oflike an old buddy, or an old pair of shoes. If you want to get an album of his songs by other people that is excellent, I am at this moment listening to A Nod To Bob. Renderings of some of his lesser known songs by a current crop of, I suppose lesser known names in the folk community. It is top notch. Also there is a CD of the MSG 30th anniversary celebration of his career, in which many well known names in the music world do his songs. This CD is nothing less than GREAT!! Clapton's version of "Don't Think Twice" is worth the price alone. Nice talkin' to ya Dan. More Later
Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 17:38:51 (PDT)

Hey it's Tom Conroy!!!
Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 17:31:34 (PDT)

i'd like to talk to my old buddies
tom conway <tconway@cnetech.net>
hanford, ca USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 15:49:37 (PDT)

Ken...Yeah...Dylan was/is brilliant. BUT, his voice goes through my head like a nail. Same with Tom Petty. Nice car to drive...after a war. Heard the Springsteen album. Very good. Very poetic.
Dan
UPSTATE, NY USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 15:47:43 (PDT)

Mike - agree with u on Orbison, he was as great a songwriter as he was a singer!!!
Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 15:36:12 (PDT)

Dan - No i'm aware of the songwriting portfolio of Carole King, its prolific and brilliant, I just put her a small step behind the man, Dylan, but any argument for King has to be welcomed with respect. Mike - If Dion ever performed out here I would be first in line to see/hear him. If you had to pick one voice and say that's the voice of R and R for me it would be Dion. Dan i'm not the biggest Springsteen fan in the world either, but I haver to give him his due. He has made some great music. Her is a hint. Get his Ghost of Tom Joad CD. Bare, basic, cut back folky. I think it's one of the finest releases in last 20 yrs. It's very Dylanesque though and if Bob isn't your cup of tea you might not like it. If he is your cup of tea, you'll love it. More later
Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 15:34:53 (PDT)

Ken...I've been lurking the board..not posting. You probably don't know all of the tunes Carole King wrote. MANY of the great songs of the 60's were hers. AND, by the way, I said POSSIBLY. I was complimenting her....Mancini, the Dorseys, Lennon/McCartney were all great. Carol King's songs are kind of buried. She wrote stuff for other artists and a lot of people don't know that they are actually listening to a Carol King tune when they hear "Up on The Roof". I can back you up on the bass/vocal thing. I was in bands for a long time and never came across someone who could sing and play bass well TOGETHER. It's tough to follow (in your head) two different clefs. Piano and keyboardists (like your Mom and mine) seem to have no problem controlling both hands, but when your hand is playing bass and you are singing melody, it's tough indeed. By the way: How do you know a musician is at your door?...............He says "Domino's". P.S. A STATEMENT: "Born To Run" is most likely the song that is the most definitive of the term "Rock & Roll" (although I really don't like Springsteen). Second to that would be Helter Skelter or I Saw Her Standing There (now THAT'S bass playing!!!)
Dan
UPSTATE, NY USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 15:02:15 (PDT)

Ken, MONT, Jim, et al: Good Answers! I do believe, however, that Jimmy Els favorite song at Marshalls upon returning from Nam was Procol Harum's "Whiter Shade of Pale." HB Pete's car was a tan '61 Olds. You answered my next question, cause I had no clue, was Eddie Bay still alive? On another point, all this discussion about singers and not a mention of one of my favorites, Roy Orbison. Had a chance to see him at a great venue, West. Conn. St U. at an outdoor concert, months before he died. What a classic! Mont, I think I may have mentioned to you, a great guy to still see, Johnny Maestro. What Im keeping my eyes and ears open for is the return of Dion to Atlantic City. Supposedly he had a phenomonal(?) response last time he was there, about a year ago. Another guy I'd like to see is Ben E. King and truly for the goof, James Brown.
Mike
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 13:34:14 (PDT)

MONT- I also want to give Mr. Diamond his due. Who can forget when the boys would spend their summer late Sunday afternnons at Jerry Lynch's in Belmar, NJ as the band played a 20 minute sing-a-long rendition of 'Sweet Caroline'? Your voice dried out so badly that you needed 3 beers to bring it back in shape again. Great marketing !!
Jim of Mineola
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 12:45:31 (PDT)

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Jordan
High lands ranch, co USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 12:25:27 (PDT)

Dan - by the way, no argument on your comment about McCartney's bass. He was brilliant. Nice to know other's notice little things like that. Also i've been playing and singing in bands for years, and just for the record the single hardest thing to do is play bass and sing. Can I get a witness on that anyone???
Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 11:49:13 (PDT)

Mont - I am as suprised to hear that Righteous Bros. are not in Hall as I was to hear Neil Diamond is not. Yes I come down hard on Neil but I do believe there is a place for him in Hall, if for nothing else, for his first 10 yrs work. Add that to his next 20 yrs (which I despise, yet I know millions love) and you can't reasonably keep him out. Shocked that Righteous Bros. are not in, so much so that I have to ask you, are you sure of that. A case also can be made for Hall and Oates. They were great for 10 yrs, made many great recordings.
Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 11:41:39 (PDT)

Mike G - Your question from the other day: Eddie Bay's infamous pal, who legend says took a rap for `GITMO' Bay, was Don.
The MONT
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 11:13:01 (PDT)

What did I start with my Mamas & Papas comment. I only meant that they were in the Rock Hall with only a few years of hits on the charts (albeit with many great hits ) Whereas a guy like Diamond is around for close to 40 years and can't get in. Heres where I start trouble again: Why aren't the Righteous Brothers and Hall & Oates in the hall???
The MONT
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 11:10:31 (PDT)

Let me put in my 2 cents that I consider 'The Mamas and Papas' among the top 5% off the greatest musical acts from 1955 to today. They were a strange lot,but great.
Jim Of Mineola
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 10:05:14 (PDT)

Well if ya gonna invite JOHNNY you know EDGAR will be near by,why not let him play too??????????
Mickster
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 09:07:49 (PDT)

Dan - I agree with you about Carole King! She's my hero, she's the best.
Mrs. Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 08:38:08 (PDT)

Sweet Leaf..oh how I loved that song back then.....
still smoken
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 08:32:44 (PDT)

Dan - Yes Carole King was a great songwriter, one of the best. But most proficient of the century? I can't agree with you on that one. My on opinion on that is that there has never been a greater songwriter than Dylan. His output is incredibly prolific, he was a wonderful tunesmith, and do I even have to mention his words. I never bothered, like so many of my contemporaries to get into that, trying to figure out what he was saying stuff. I think that helped me enjoy him even more. Having said all that, i'm also gonna say this. Guys of our generation like to say that this guy, or that girl is the greatest songwriter ever, and it's always someone from our generation. I'm as guilty as anyone for that. But different times bring different kinds of songs, and we do the Gershwins, Berlins, Porters, and Kerns, a disservice when we forget them. They wrote great, great songs. Just listen to I'll Be Seeing You sometime and picture a soldier overseas fighting WWII, and think how meaningful that song must have been to millions no tens of millions of people. What you said 'bout John Phillips could not have been more true. Anyone who does not have a copy of Mamas And Papas greatest should rush right out and get it. Some, no, many of the greatest songs, and importantly arrangements of the 60' and 70's. He was REALLY a genius!!!! Where have you been Dan???
Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 08:25:12 (PDT)

My dream "Woodstock" 3 week music festival artist list: Beatles, The Carpenters, Mamas & Papas, Jimi Hendrix, Johnny Winter, Janis Joplin, ELP, Yes, Chicago, Mountain, Human Waste Project, The 4 Seasons, Leslie Gore, The Mothers of Invention, Vanilla Fudge, Deep Purple, The Allman Bros, BB King, 4 Tops, Temptations, Mozart, Beach Boys, Cactus, Dinah Washington, The Supremes, Traffic, Sex Pistols, Rolling Stones, QUEEN, Frank Sinatra, Cream, Sly, The Turtles, Michael Jackson, Led Zep, Crosby-Stlls-Nash & Young, Spinal Tap, The Rutles, John Denver, Creedence, Little Richard, Springsteen, Metallica, the original Van Halen, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Foghat, Elton John, Simon & Garfunkel, Pink Floyd, ELO, The Doors, Chet Atkins.
Dan
UPSTATE, awaiting 6 months of snow., NY USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 05:16:01 (PDT)

Re: All this music talk......Great artists (in no particular order): Dusty Springfield, Leslie Gore, Karen Carpenter, Greg Lake, Hendrix, Carl Palmer, Frank Zappa, Janis Joplin, Johnny & Edgar Winter, Aimee Echo, Eric Fontana, John Phillips (possibly the best vocal arranger ever), Paul McCartney (THE best bassist ever), the original YES, Dinah Washington, The Four Tops, Steve Vai (the best tehnical guitarist, not a very good songwriter), Steve Morse, Duane Allman, The Four Seasons, Carol King (possibly the most proficient songwriter of the century), Sly and the Family Stone, Chicago.
Dan
UPSTATE, awaiting 6 months of snow., NY USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 04:48:07 (PDT)

first post
goes to me
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 04:08:09 (PDT)

Yeah i have a thousand favorites myself.Just something about that RUNAWAY........certian songs just move ya and you can never hold me to it.My head will start racing when im asked and the answer will most vary everytime according to mood.I just was thinking had i been asked abot something later that i liked and 2000 tunes ran thru my head....and it stopped tonight on something i guess im in the mood for at that time........tonights kinda southern...........i like TRUDY by CHARLIE DANIELS...CANT YA SEE by MARSHALL TUCKER and BLUE SKY by THE ALLMANS,ASk me tommorow and im liable to tell you a SABBATH or PURPLE tune. HAHA.
Mickster < John Lee Walker was a card mechanic>
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 23:20:57 (PDT)

Bobby Darin's Mack The Knife is still my favorite song after 42 yrs. I remember in 1959, when I was 12, going to bed with the covers over my head and listening to the sounds of the likes of The Five Satins, Mello Kings, Everly Bros., but the greatest song of all, at least to me was Mack The Knife. It was nr 1 locally for 18 wks in a row on WMGM, and I remember feeling like a friend died when it was knocked off it's perch by Theme From A Summer Place. That brought us into 1960, my teen years, and a whole world was about to explode, musically, from the Beatles, thru the Stones, CSNY, Beach Boys, Procol Harum, Dylan, Clapton, Zep, and on, and on. And I guess that's what i've been doing, going on and on. More Later!!!
Ken Sez
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 22:19:14 (PDT)

No i knew it.I know alot about music.Shut my mind off to anything much new in and since the eighties.Ive heard decent stuff but nothing like the classics.To each their own.But if you start putting people like that together you can stump till the cows come home.So if ya cant live and learn,i just keep to myself.I dont take a status thing or attitude about what i know.Im a big DYLAN Fan and i love to see who backed up who and im always seeking the credits.Thats a good one.I like stuff like that such as Jerry Garcia playing guitar on TEACH YOUR CHILDREN or heres another rare one that is like night and day...JIMMY PAGE on guitar with Tom Jones on IT'S NOT UNUSUAL, now thats an oddball one.Im only in my thirties but like baseball i made it a point growing up to learn about stuff before my time.I know lots some don't and some know lot's i dont and i enjoy it very much.I have a wide listening range wider than most,hard to pick favorites and i get in moods for different things,but if ya asked me the song i enjoy the most i have so many so i usually will tell ya something like "RUNAWAY"by DELL SHANNON because i still think the song is one of the greatest ever !!
Mickster < I WA Wa WA WONDER @ Hats off to Larry.com>
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:09:32 (PDT)

Mick - Did u know that Dylan/harp answer, or was it an educated guess??? Curious, cause it is kind of an obscure recording.
Ken Sez
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 17:57:06 (PDT)

Mont - Gotta disagree with you on Mamas And Papas, many, many wonderful songs, fantastic production, outstanding harmonies. Probably the group that most easily transports me back to the 60's. John Phillips is the most overlooked singer/songwriter of all time!!! But that's what makes horseraces, differences of opinion.
Ken Sez
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 17:54:59 (PDT)

SEZ - You were absolutely right with Joey Dee. They played with him at different times as did most of the Rascals. The answer to the Neil Diamond question is `Sunday and Me' by Jay & the Americans (or as Johnny El would say `Mercans') it made to #15. I'm not too crazy about a lot of later Neil Diamond but he had a lot of hits and deserves more credit than Solomon Burke or the Mamas & Papas. But what the hell it's just a tourist attraction. So how's your CD collection? You must download everything in sight. I've run out of things to buy, I must have `Tear on My Pillow'on 12 CDS. Well got to get back to the Mets, They're losing in Fla. tonight! Back tomorrow, since my daughter will be controlling the PC for the rest of the night!
the MONT
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 17:01:11 (PDT)

Mont - I'm not sure from your last if you got my Joey Dee answer, did u. As far as you second question, i'm gonna give another educated guess. When I was n the svc., in 67 I had the first album from The Union Gap, and there was a cover of Kentucky Woman in that album. I have no idea if that charted here, but if it did, that would be the answer.
Ken Sez
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 16:12:54 (PDT)

Mont - I agree with you partially about Neil Diamond - He was great for about 8 or 10 yrs. He has since lost me, starting with that vomit inducing duet with Streisand, You Don't Send Me Flowers. Subsequent efforts such as Love on the Rocks has sent him spiraling down into the netherlands of the Lounge Lizard!!!!!!! So I give him 'bout 8 good yrs and 'bout 25 bad yrs. Actually that's 'bout the same I could say for Chicago. RAMBLINGS - Beach Boys will never get credit they deserve. Their music was as good as anyone, and FUN FUN FUN. Billy Idol's "White Wedding" cranked up full volume is 'bout as good as R and R gets. U2 knows what R and R is all about! Current crop that gets it - Creed, Chile Peppers, Pearl Jam. More later!!!
Ken Sez
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 15:08:04 (PDT)

anti-- she is there!! http://www.paramount.com/nickoftime/ <-- go there and search--- she is there!
curious
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 10:32:00 (PDT)

Off to Mount Skellympus I go,to frolic with the mountain maidens once again...As General MacArthur once said..."Why ain't there no toilet paper here in the Phillipines" ...oops...wrong quote..."I shall return"...that's better...I,too,shall return next week...Von Micksterberg,think of a good movie trivia question for me upon my return,and Tishington, keep the dust pan at the ready....always remember...Godessness is next to Tishliness...Later,from your director of Charm and Ettiquette School, Anti-Skell...
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 10:31:25 (PDT)

Gee...I just gassed up the rocket today, and realized, that with the gas prices jumping up again, I purchased 64 camel saddles for the Kuwaiti Camel Riding Academy for the Overpriveledged Gas Price Gougers Association...
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 10:24:53 (PDT)

JB-----Take off the plastic bag that is tied oh so tightly around your neck,and over your head, and read the posts...
Anti-Skell <uhhduh@youshouldpayattention.nut>
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 10:20:03 (PDT)

Curious...no mention of gloria reuben at the paramount site you suggested to me...I am heartbroken .....:^(
Anti-Skell
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 10:16:53 (PDT)

This site is a great idea for connecting old friends,and people you wonder whatever happened to them. What has happened to all of the memories people shared. Is anyone still online?
J.B <still living in Woodhaven>
Woodhaven, ny USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 10:13:19 (PDT)

Posted the same crap, different day (yesterday).
TWICE?
Hoo-Boy, USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 10:04:31 (PDT)

NEW ORLEANS. (AP) - Justin Wilson, the Cajun chef whose down-home humor, gumbo-thick accent and "ga-ron-tee" of authentic bayou cuisine delighted television audiences, died Wednesday. He was 87. Wilson was the host of several cooking shows on public television, including "Cookin' Cajun," "Louisiana Cookin'" and "Easy Cooking." He pronounced his name JOOS-tain and had white hair, a floppy bow tie and bright red suspenders. He wore a belt, too, saying it was because he was a safety engineer. His trademark expression was "I ga-ron-tee!" (guarantee), from the Cajun "J'vous garantis." He released five cookbooks, 27 albums of short stories and an album of Christmas songs.
Gosh Dangit
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 09:37:48 (PDT)

yes, jamie lee does have that she-man thing going on... if it wasn't for the plastic inserted into her chest, she would look like her own brother. don't know just what it is about walken: talented actor, great dancer, interesting personality, sexy, off beat looks....hmmm......
curious
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 07:00:41 (PDT)

MONT- Your Eddie Bay answer is correct,but not sure of the spelling. VENTING TIME- I don't understand what the ladies see in Christopher Walken. The same holds true that my wife doesn't see what me and other men see in Jamie Lee Curtis. She tells me that Jamie is really 80% a guy. Is she trying to tell me something?
Jim of Mineola
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 06:30:20 (PDT)

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20010906/en/999827900mtv_awards_xnyr133.html
See him winning!!!
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 06:26:32 (PDT)

To celebrate the year of the Walken I chose my new wallpaper from this site... http://www.astralwerks.com/fbs/woc/
VMA = VICTORY !
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 06:19:48 (PDT)

Ken Sez- This is the last time I lead off with the 'A' stuff. Joey Dee is the answer! There is a definite bias against pop stars of the 60S ans 70S. People like Sedaka, Connie Francis, Brenda Lee and even the great Neil Diamond can forget about admission to the Rock Hall (as my Cleveland relatives call it) anytime soon. Speaking of Diamond-here is today's question: What was the first top 20 hit written by Neil Diamond to appear on the charts? It's not performed by him or the Monkees.
THE MONT
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 05:33:29 (PDT)

yuk....i don't want a damn worm anyway!
curious
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 05:24:35 (PDT)

Mr. Bobeck - Eddie Bay's last name was Ristal, I believe.
THE MONT
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 05:18:14 (PDT)

Yes thats right, Dylan is the answer.
Ken Sez
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 04:21:53 (PDT)

Early bird gets the worm
It's true
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 00:01:36 (PDT)

FIRST POST...HA HA
Got it too
USA - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 00:00:37 (PDT)

Last Post
I got it
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 23:59:08 (PDT)



USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 23:52:36 (PDT)

KEN- You better not let Joan of Mineola see that Air Supply remark. They are among her favorites and we have seen them in concert 4 or 5 times.(Good showmen)They get more bras thrown at them than Tom Jones and they come off of fans under 60. By the way Mont does great Air Supply imitations whenever he comes to my house.Mrs. B. is still waiting to see if John Havlichek returns along with Michael Jordan.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:15:31 (PDT)

THE ANSWER KEN SEZ IS BLOWING IN THE WIND....THE ANSWER IS BLOWIN IN THE WIND.NOW YOU WILL STUMP ME EVENTUALLY,IM ONLY IN MY THIRTIES BUT IF THIS DONT GET PISSY WE CAN HAVE ALOT OF FUN, IM NOT TO SHABBY.JAKOB'S DAD.MR.ZIMMERMAN.BOB DYLAN IS WHOM YOU SEEK.
MICKSTER < DESOLATION ROW.BLONDE ON BLONDE.COM>
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:15:28 (PDT)

Circa 1960 - Harry Belafonte's Midnight Special - who blew the harp???? Jim - Brian Hyland will get into the Hall Of Fame when Air Supply does. Having said that, Brian had a pretty nice little career for a homeboy. Four or Five hits, one smash hit Itsy Bitsy (bubblegum for sure, but tell that to his accountant). I won't come down to hard on him.
Ken Sez
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 19:39:45 (PDT)

Stewart is the answer i was looking for.Its a pretty decent trivia question.I never heard Rod discredited,however it very well could be, but it is Stewart to my knowledge.
Mickster <Gasolinealley@you wearitwell.com>
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 18:46:03 (PDT)

Sorry Mickster,I gave credit to the wrong person asking the lollipop question.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 18:37:40 (PDT)

Ken- Just checked on "Google" and there is disagreement about "My Boy Lollipop". The answer you are looking for is Rod Stewart ,but other sites deny this and name Pete Hogman. No matter who it was,that Rod Stewart brews a mean root beer.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 18:35:05 (PDT)

ARLENE -Quick,come get your man. Ken makes one visit to NY in 12 years and he is acting like the rest of us. Next thing you know he will be blowing the horn on his bus,and his favorite song will be 'Beep,Beep'. A quick personal note of mine ...the two best American sung romantic rock and roll songs were 'Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow' and 'I Can't Help Falling In Love With You'. Ken,what do you think on Hall of Fame for Brian Hyland ? What's that .. right after I get in ?
Jim of Mineola
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 18:28:26 (PDT)

In or around 1964 MILLIE SMALL a one hit wonder had a hit single called MY BOY LOLIPOP.What rock and roll superstar was the harmonica player on that song? " lolipop...ya make my heart go giddy-up..."
Mickster <speedo736@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 18:08:32 (PDT)

Mike - Jimmy El's favorite song was Sugar Sugar- Some Ramblings - Every time I hear a sportscaster refer to the plural of RBI as RBI (Bonds has 120 RBI for the season) I lose a little regard for him. It's RBI's dammit, I don't care about the gramatical implications. Sports as any other facet of life develops it's own words, and RBI is a word, I don't care that the "s" is on the end of the word "run". Why is Neil Sedaka not in the R and R hall of fame, and Solomon Burke is???? Influences my ass!!! Burke had one hit, and I don't have enough fingers and toes for Sedakas!!!!! While we're on Hall Of Fames (always good food for convo) Why is Chi Chi Rodriguez in the golf Hall Of Fame - 6 wins Pls!!! There's more to come.
Ken Sez
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 18:01:35 (PDT)

MIKE- We can see that you haven't lost all your gray matter yet.Now for my educated guesses A- Was Pete's car a Rambler? B- I think Garage Ronnie's numerical downfall was thirty dollars ... changed to ten dollars three times. I do remember that Ronnie has trouble with ESSO gas when it became EXXON ,I think he called it ESCON. C-Was Jimmy El's song Susar,Sugar or Stairway to Heaven? D- You have me blank regarding Eddie Bay's friend. I do remember the Ecuadorian auto body men.A strange Eddie Bay story is that I am in my house 20 years and two blocks from me near Jericho Turnpike was a tiny Lionel R.R. store with a fat man running it. About 15 years ago he was found dead in the store of a heart attack ...a few days later we found out it was Edgar 'Bay' ______ .My next store neighbor had his kids in high school. Easy question .. fill in the last name.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 17:43:08 (PDT)

Rich Y. Jimbo, Ken Sez and The Mont; Totally Esoteric Trivia - What kind of car did Ham Bologna Pete and Eleanor "tool" around in? What did Ronnie "garage" have trouble spelling at the bank? What was Jimmy Els favorite song in Marshalls Juke upon returning from Nam? BONUS: Name Eddie Bays ex-con, pool shark friend, a very shady character?
Mike
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 16:41:51 (PDT)

Curious---no mention of gloria reuben on paramount-nick of time....waaaaah......
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 15:19:04 (PDT)

Answer-- Who Could I be
Abraham Lincoln
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 13:50:04 (PDT)

Curious...I am forever in your debt...Your wish is my command....
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 13:15:58 (PDT)

http://www.paramount.com/nickoftime/epk/reuben.html
the addy
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 13:09:12 (PDT)

Mont - I'm gonna guess (educated) Pesci and Hendrix both played for a 60's band, think it might have been Joey Dee and Starlighters???? Am I close. Mick - That's a good question, I didn't know that, and I appreciate info and tidbits bout music and musicians particularly of that era.
Ken Sez
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 13:09:11 (PDT)

anti-- check out NICK OF TIME-- they are both in it!
curious
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 13:07:03 (PDT)

Curious...Not much into Chris,but if you happen to come across a nice video of Gloria Rueben,let me know....
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 13:04:06 (PDT)

Bob Hopeless cheated the grim reaper again...he is on the way home from the hospital...with a little detour to Madame Tussaud's House of Wax for a fitting...
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 13:02:17 (PDT)

non-pedophile...Are you upset ??? What is your major malfunction today ???
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 13:00:35 (PDT)

Why is it always up to the entertainers?!
Pick a subject - ANY subject!
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 12:55:56 (PDT)

Please change the subject.....
getting me sick
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 12:52:02 (PDT)

They all rot. As for Heche, she seems just as crazy now as she swears she was last year. She was well known for her drug use, and it creeps me out that she will be a mother. Maybe having a child will bring out the best in her?
What a sad childhood
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 12:28:16 (PDT)

hey, speaking of pedophiles...anyone see that interview with ANNE HESCHE (sp) last night? her daddy has his own special place in hell.....
curious
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 12:23:08 (PDT)

I agree with you for once!
God
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 12:01:33 (PDT)

Evil posters shall rot in hell!!!!!
Satan
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 11:41:50 (PDT)

yes, anti, it is veeerrrrryyyy good....try to dig up a copy of "pennies from heaven" and watch in awe his tap dancing talents.
curious
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 11:25:23 (PDT)

WHERE did you get your information? Are you a child? Have you been molested? IF you do know something, OPEN your mouth! If you are just yesterdays ***hole, then get the hell out of here!
Lousy, irresponsible thing to say
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 11:16:14 (PDT)

Non-Pedophile...You have the wrong guy,Anti-Skell is Da Man.
Fan Of Anti-Skell <he makes us laugh@woodhaven.com>
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 11:12:35 (PDT)

Anti-skell, get a ****** life, you ***********. All you are is a ******* and a *****.
Non-Pedophile
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 11:06:54 (PDT)

Curious...saw the fat boy slim video the other day...pretty good...
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 10:41:22 (PDT)

Do you know the Muffin Man?
Curds & Whey
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 10:37:06 (PDT)

Both of them are guitar players and lefty.
Mickster
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 10:36:38 (PDT)

do you know...The Mad Hatter ???
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 10:23:59 (PDT)

pesci and hendrix...hmmm...what do they have in common ??? hmm...they were both married to Imogene Coca ???
Anti-Skell
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 10:23:14 (PDT)

Who Could It Be? A speech made by this man in 1863, at the dedication of a military cemetery, became one of the most famous speeches ever made in America. He started his career as a lawyer and served as part of the Illinois legislature before he became the President of America. He is best known for freeing the slaves in the rebelling states during the American Civil War.
Do you know who it is???
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 10:19:17 (PDT)

This Day In Baseball History::::Sept/06/(1995) Cal Ripken breaks Lou Gehrig's consecutive game record playing in his 2,131st straight game. When the game becomes official in the middle of the fifth inning, the new 'Iron Man' takes a victory lap around Camden Yards during the 22-minute standing ovation from the sell-out crowd, including President Bill Clinton.
Baseball Nut
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 10:11:48 (PDT)

I was in a beauty contest a while back. Not only did I come in last, I was hit in the mouth by Miss Congeniality.
Phyllis Diller
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 09:38:05 (PDT)

they both had sex with MOMMA CASS? jimi said he used to "slap a thigh and ride a wave in!!"
curious
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 08:35:11 (PDT)

Curious-I'm not certain if Joe is a southpaw and I don't believe he's from Seattle, But that's not it. It is however related to music.
THE MONT
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 08:29:23 (PDT)

MONT: are they both left handed? both from seattle?
curious
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 08:14:58 (PDT)

Nobody could say "The Seagull" doesn't have legs (to use a producers' expression for a show that can run for a long time). Even so, the Public Theater's recent production of Anton Chekhov's classic play will not move to a Broadway house for a limited engagement, thereby dashing the hopes of thousands of theatregoers. Rumors of a Broadway transfer began even before the first public performance in the park, but that turned out to be based more on wishful thinking than reality. This week the Public Theater announced the hoped-for transfer would not take place after all. However, although the Delacorte production ended Sun., Aug. 26, the show is not entirely lost. The Lincoln Center Library's Theatre on Film and Tape Collection videotaped the Friday performance with three cameras, after an aborted attempt to tape Thursday's waterlogged performance. The tape will be made available for viewing to members of the professional theatre community, students, and historians. Restrictions established by Actors' Equity and other unions forbid the tape's showing to members of the general public.
Backstage.com
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 07:24:50 (PDT)

Hey Sez, (or anyone else) What do Joe Pesci and Jimi Hendrix have in common?
THE MONT
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 07:22:36 (PDT)

No need at all for a sorry Tish you always had class and id expect nothing less.But if this darn thing would go to eastern standard time like it should we would not be confused about such events of importance as a WALKEN apearance.You guys are right it did indeed read weds. but more importantly curious you did not miss it. enjoy.
Mickster
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 07:21:52 (PDT)

The answer to the trivia question about the first hit Jimmy Page and J.P. Jones worked on was Donavans' " HURDY GURDY MAN". Guitar and bass of course.It was there in that session that the idea that eventually evolved into THE HAMMER OF THE GODS was born.And im not talking about some one hit wonder 4 foot bell bottom bedwetter band either!!!!!
Mickster <speedo736@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 07:18:35 (PDT)

Sorry Mickster, the post read Wednesday to me (and I guess to curious too). Enjoy the show.
Tish
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 07:16:34 (PDT)

BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) - Justin Wilson, the Cajun humorist and chef whose distinctive accent delighted viewers of his ``Cookin' Cajun'' television show, has died. He was 87. His daughter Sarah Sue Easterly said Wilson died Wednesday in Baton Rouge. She would not give details but said more information would be released later Thursday. Over Wilson's career, he released five cookbooks, 27 albums of short stories and an album of Christmas songs. He was host of several cooking programs, including ``Louisiana Cookin'.'' He referred to himself as JOOS-tain and became known for the expression: ``I ga-ron-tee!'' (guarantee), from the Cajun ``J'vous garantis.''
Down in the Delta
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 07:15:29 (PDT)

well curious i do apologize sincerely because i do know how much you like to catch everything he does.and thank you tish but actually i posted that yesterday after midnight so it was indeed thursday i WAS talking about.in any event it is tonight curious and i hope you enjoy it.
Mickster
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 07:10:03 (PDT)

Ken Sez- I was just pulling your chain last night. You are 'da man' in golf and bar bowling machines, but you should take some guitar lessons. JUST KIDDING.Says Jimbo, AKA bar fly and 19th hole. Everyone out there, give Ken a quiz about American Bandstand sometime.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 07:08:23 (PDT)

thanks for the info, tish--let's hope the man dances!
curious
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 06:36:50 (PDT)

Hi curious, don't get nuts! Mickster means well but he was getting ahead of himself. The MTV VMA show is on tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern. Record it on the first telecast. If anything scandalous happens it is edited out the second time around and never shown again.
Tish
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 06:30:50 (PDT)

TANGERINE and TEN YEARS GONE get my juices flowing.....
curious
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 05:18:56 (PDT)

hey mick- were the video awards last night or tonight?? damn, i thought it was thursday.....he is going to be a presenter, and might even do some moves from that fat boy slim video. lucky us!! (p.s.- i will always be #1 in my own little warped mind.)
curious
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 05:13:05 (PDT)

The Rain Song - Magic!!!!!!
Ken Sez
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 04:17:17 (PDT)

see we have some late night people on here tonight....
Night Owl
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 21:45:22 (PDT)

With a purple umbrella and a fifty-cent hat.....livin lovin' shes just a woman.
mickster
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 21:37:40 (PDT)

Hello Curious.....long time......Christopher Walken on the video awards tonight !!
Mickster
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 21:35:28 (PDT)

Let us not forget "The Lemon Song'....voted #1 by Gonad the Barbarian...
Anti-Skell
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 21:19:22 (PDT)

moby dick rocks.....
Anti-Skell
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 21:14:41 (PDT)

This BlackDog must be deafened by his Grunge records.Led Zeppelin could do nearly no wrong as far as their recordings.their first album in '69 reached billboards top ten in two months and the second album reached number one also within two months and every album after that has gone platinum.Page and J.P.Jones got the idea to join forces and form a band with the drummer and singer from Procul Harem both who were not available at the time.They recomended Plantand he recomended bonzo and the rest is history.nowafterThe Yardbirds Page did lots of session work and J.P.Jones was a famed session musician and arrnger,they worked together on a 60's song that was a reasonably sized hit for an artist when they got the idea to join forces.Anyone have the name and artist of the song.The trivia is the song was a hit and i believe the first known time Page and Jones worked together.
MICKSTER <BRONYAUR@MISTYMOUNTIAN.COM>
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:59:29 (PDT)

Some day Ken Sez might learn to play some golf.
19th Hole
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:38:29 (PDT)

Stand by Anti-Skell, i'll keep you posted!!
Ken Sez
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 19:19:21 (PDT)

Ken Sez--Rumor has it you might want to borrow my "bar fly" swatter...
Anti-Skell
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 19:04:40 (PDT)

Hmmm Barfly? - Got some ideas but i'm gonna need more than that.
Ken Sez
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 19:04:32 (PDT)

They say Ken Sez knows his music,but too bad he was never any good at the bowling machine in the Circus Bar.
Bar Fly
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 17:53:36 (PDT)

Rich - Are u hittin' the surf????????? If so, how's the water???
Ken Sez
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 17:34:23 (PDT)

dorfman glad i could be of help clearing that burden up. the mont has arrived on the scene. will there be no end to the reunion ?keep coming boys maybe we can get vinny f and joey abbs et al hooked.
rich
vero beach, USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 16:39:24 (PDT)

Tks Fan
Ken Sez
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 14:42:35 (PDT)

Right on Ken Sez...Finally,we have someone here at woodhaven online that knows about music.Also,add me to the list too.
Fan of Ken Sez
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 14:29:19 (PDT)

Does anyone remember laughter?

USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 13:37:06 (PDT)

He was what he was - A ROCK AND ROLL SINGER!!!!! Were not talking about Nat King Cole, or Tony Bennet. Rock and Roll, grunts, gutteral squelches, primal screams, writhing, rocking and rolling, he did it well!!!! Add me to the list of guys who liked rock before it became techno.
Ken Sez
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 13:25:59 (PDT)

well, i am off to be entertained by the outside world! see ya!!!!
curious
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 13:25:42 (PDT)

Huh? He WAS lucky and did do well. His "singing" sucks. You should know better.
Whatever, Ken
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 13:05:51 (PDT)

Yeah your right Black Dog - Maybe in his next life Plant will do better. This time around he only fronted the greatest R and R band of all time!!!!
Ken Sez
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 13:02:03 (PDT)

"Invention, my dear friends, is 93% perspiration, 6% electricity, 4% evaporation, and 2% butterscotch ripple."
Willy Wonka
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 13:00:03 (PDT)

black dog = "mongreloid" idiot
Anti-Skell <waahwaahwaah@youtalentlessloser.com>
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 12:48:36 (PDT)

Yes, but with the way he fills a pair of jeans and those cascading blonde curls, he can hurt my ears all he wants.
Hubba Hubba
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 12:05:40 (PDT)

Robert Plant = no talent, LUCKY, caterwauling hack
Black Dog
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 11:53:06 (PDT)

He was never the same after I left him......
Snow White
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 11:30:55 (PDT)

Hank the Angry, Drunken Dwarf is dead. The 4-foot-1 Howard Stern sidekick, known for being, well, drunk and angry, died Tuesday at the age of 39. The cause of death was not immediately disclosed. Born Henry Nasiff, the diminutive performer got his break in 1996, when he and a friend from Boston dinner theater (yes, Hank was in dinner theater) drove to New York City and decided to try to get on the Stern show. Hank's vigil at New York's K-Rock studios began at about 5:30 a.m., and the Stern crew quickly took notice. As Doug Z. Goodstein, Hank's manager and the producer of Stern's E! TV show, once recounted to E! Online, "There was just a compelling feature of a drunk, belligerent midget." (As Hank was fond of yelling, "I'm not a midget, I'm a dwarf, you a--hole.)"
Howie "King of all Jerkoffs" Sterns <I wish i was O&A@opieanthony.com>
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 11:16:48 (PDT)

REENIE- Did not know Tom McCollough,but my brother Bill Beck graduated in '56 with a John McC. Any relation? If so,tell John that Bill says hello from his home in Maine. I hope to see them all posting on WOL soon.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 10:43:31 (PDT)

Sorry- thought you were a male.
Miss Foot in Mouth
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 09:13:41 (PDT)

"My girlfriend's HUSBAND'S birthday..." I don't think that is very appropriate...do you????
Miss Morals
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 09:13:02 (PDT)

Jim - Thanks for the regards from the Kearns. Sounds like you had a good time. Did you know Tom McCullouch, from 88th AVe.) He was the younger brother (by about 4 years) of my best friend, which puts him graduating STA around '61. Will be seeing him this weekend - Heading to "Breezy Point" for a bash on the beach this weekend - My girlfriend's husband's birthday. - I don't do ocean water, but the liquid refreshments on the beach will be flowing.
Reenie
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 08:34:39 (PDT)

Just to fill you old timers in on the great weekend I had at the wedding of Evelyn 'Cookie' Kearns son in Connecticut. Cookie and Cathy Pittman, both of STA '61 (you do the math)look absolutely great.When a guy graduates from grade school the last thing he thinks of is that his girl classmates will still look good in 40 years,but it happens. Both of these ladies lived on 88 Ave. on opposite sides of 80 St.. Cookies' Mom had the tiny candy store on 80 St. near 88 Ave and still looks great at 85 +. The two brothers Jim and John STA '58 & 57 were also there from their New Hampshire homes.All of us were smart enough to bring old photos which during free time this weekend brought tons of laughs. REENIE- They did remember you and send their best.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 08:14:21 (PDT)

BUSTER- In your early Woodhaven information search,there is a site www.richmondhillhistory.org which looks like it has overlapping Woodhaven notes as well as quite a few old local map links to click on. My family also worked for the local rich folk back in the 1930's-40's as my Mom's uncle Harry Kirk was the chauffer for the Bohack (supermarket) family who lived about 4 blocks from Regent's Row Restaurant. My Dad's parents bought their house on 75 St. and 88 Rd. around 1912,when my Gradfather worked in the Lance and Grosjeans (sp?) factory on Atlantic Ave.
Jim of Mineola
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 07:58:45 (PDT)

Curious....Open the door, and step aside...I will arrive wearing a Christopher Walken mask...hehehe
Anti-Skell
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 07:31:55 (PDT)

my boss is out of the office again today-- who wants to come out and play?
curious
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 06:46:33 (PDT)

#1 again--yessssssssss!!!!!
curious
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 05:06:26 (PDT)

It is almost....time....to sleep........
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 23:09:55 (PDT)

Wiseguy: Got the mail, will respond.
Buster
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 20:42:04 (PDT)

Thanks everyone for all the insight and suggestions. I have been working on this 'tree' thing for over two years, and was quite surprised by that Woodhaven fact. As far as we always knew, "Nana" always lived in Glendale (on Myrtle Ave). But she did tell us that when she first came here, it was as a maid for some rich people. Go figure.
Buster
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 20:41:38 (PDT)

Can't stand ya
Gym Teacher
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 18:31:11 (PDT)

big brother is
watching you
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 18:15:11 (PDT)

Here's a story out of Yankee camp: Bronx, NY (AP) - George Steinbrenner and the New York Yankees announced that pitcher Danny Almonte of the Rolando Paulino Baby Bombers was activated for action with the Staten Island Yankees of the New York - Penn League. Staten Island will begin it's title defense of the NYP Minor League championship against the Brooklyn Cyclones Thursday night at RCB Ballpark in Staten Island. "This organization has a long tradition of wingding baseball and we will do anything to maintain that. Read my lips - ANYTHING. Let us win and no one gets hurt." noted Steinbrenner when questioned about bringing the embattled pitcher to the organization's Single A affiliate. "It was an easy one to pull off. We just had him switch birth certificates with El Duque.", Steinbrenner added. In a strange turn of events, Almonte was immediately placed on the DL after he became so excited by the news, he cut himself shaving. Steinbrenner immediately ordered the 1929 Yankees to be taken out of cryogenics to compensate for the loss.
George Costanza <yankssuck@jeterfag.com>
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 13:57:25 (PDT)

Mont - That sentence should have read - I can't argue with what you said 'bout 4 Tops Walk Away Renee.
Ken Sez
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 13:11:27 (PDT)

Buster: Sent you an e-mail,Hope all us well by you.
Wise Guy
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 13:10:23 (PDT)

Buster: Sent you an e-mail,Hope all us well by you.
Wise Guy
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 13:10:10 (PDT)

Mont - Glad to hear from you old pal. Yes I wish you were in town for my visit. They will come more often now. I can't argue with what about 4 Tops Walk Away Renee. I wasn't really talking 'bout the version by Left Banke. It is the song i'm talking about. It was also done by someone else that escapes me at this time and as I remember all three versions were excellent, the mark of a really great song!
Ken Sez
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 13:09:51 (PDT)

Buster - I'm thinking that it's within 4 blocks of Jamaica Ave., probably north. I think Jamaica Ave. has always been the main drag of Woodhaven.
Kern Sez
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 13:05:28 (PDT)

Go to the light, Bob- C'mon, you can do it!
Bing
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 12:27:44 (PDT)

KEN SEZ-YOUR TASTE IN MUSIC AS BAFFLING AS EVER. 8:05 BY MOBY GRAPE WAS ONE OF THE 10 GREATEST SONGS OF ALL-TIME. WALK AWAY RENEE BT THE FOUR TOPS IS BETTER THAN LEFT BANKE (YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE WORDS!) SORRY I WASN'T IN TOWN WHEN YOU WERE HERE, HAD TO GO TO CALIF. TO SEE THE METS LOSE IN S.D & L.A.!HOPE YOUR VISITS WILL BECOME ANNUAL EVENTS. HEAR I HAVE MORE HAIR THAN YOU, BUT THEN I ALWAYS DID!
RICKY A. 'THE MONT' MADISON <RAM999@APEXMAIL.COM>
WILLISTON PARK, NY USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 12:11:11 (PDT)

Curious: The morning starts at 12:00am, thats why its A.M. get It, but maybe in your world it starts when you wake?? But for the rest of the world the new day starts at 12:00am
Just For The Record
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 12:01:49 (PDT)

Bob Hope"less" is still clinging to life by an oh so tenuous thread...Jack Benny's ghost has been seen hovering over his bed, as was the incontinent spirit of Martha Raye...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 11:59:37 (PDT)

Buster- Don't have a definative answer to your history question but this may help. When my parents bought their house on 88 Ave in 1918 it was not 88 Ave. The streets were named and numbered like Brooklyn. Then trhey converted the named streets to numbered and then converted the addresses to correspond with the streets. It sounds like the address you have was in the middle of that process after the names were changed to numbers but before the house addresses were converted. I don't know if this helps but where 85 Street meets the park around the second house towards 86 Street there was a historical marker that said something to the effect that is was erected in front of the house that had the new address system and I think showed the year. If someone in Woodhaven could help out and relate that info to you it might help. Now my failing memory may be wrong and that sign could be on 86 Street at the park but it was there.
Bill in Las Vegas
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 11:53:33 (PDT)

Buttsteroids-Be advised, the possibility exists that with possible language /communication problems,the address might not have been recorded properly...Also, the Postal Office might be a place to search old address records...There are quite a number of Cliff Clavans there who might know where some of the old addresses were...ie...101 avenue used to be Jerome Avenue...
Anti=Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 11:53:02 (PDT)

Busteroid----The same place it was then....seriously...Sounds like it might be up in College Point, orFlushing (presently flooShing) area maybe...Also, the Buildings Dept. on Queens Blvd,keeps records on all buildings built in the city limits.The buildings dept. section the houses those records is in the Courthouse, accross the boulevard from their headquarters, which is adjacent to Maple Grove Cemetery...
Anti-Skell
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 11:48:42 (PDT)

And we can find the "truthspeaker" up my ass picking daisies!!
Ha Ha- Remember that one?
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 11:08:49 (PDT)

I do not know where to find Danny Mullen,,,,,But you can find his wife at Timmy Hinche's house....
truthspeaker <I'll find em 4 ya>
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 10:20:05 (PDT)

Helllloo--ellloo--llooo--oooo
Echo into an empty room
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 10:13:23 (PDT)

Hollywood Hunk Troy Donahue Dies.... Sep 2, 2001, 6:15 PM PT: Troy Donahue, the all-American teen pinup of the 1950s and '60s who shot to stardom opposite Sandra Dee in A Summer Place, died Sunday of complications from a heart attack. He was 65. He suffered the heart attack on Thursday and was taken to a Santa Monica hospital, but he never recovered.
For Curious
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 09:19:25 (PDT)

that wasn't the point, dave.....
curious
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 08:44:13 (PDT)

I shave, curious....
Dave
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 08:20:30 (PDT)

you are first by the hair on your chinny-chin-chin....
curious
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 06:10:16 (PDT)

A new priest at his first mass was so nervous he could hardly speak. After mass he asked the monsignor how he had done. The monsignor replied, "When I am worried about getting nervous on the pulpit, I put a glass of vodka next to the water glass. If I start to get nervous, I take a sip." So next Sunday he took the monsignor's advice. At the beginning of the sermon, he got nervous and took a drink. He proceeded to talk up a storm. Upon his return to his office after mass, he found the following note on the door: 1. Sip the Vodka, don't gulp. 2. There are 10 commandments, not 12. 3. There are 12 disciples, not 10. 4. Jesus was consecrated, not constipated. 5. Jacob wagered his donkey, he did not bet his ass. 6. We do not refer to Jesus Christ as the late J. C. 7. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are not referred to as Daddy, Junior and the Spook. 8. David slew Goliath, he did not kick the shit out of him. 9. When David was hit by a rock and was knocked off his Donkey, don't say he was stoned off his ass. 10. We do not refer to the cross as the "Big T." 11. When Jesus broke the bread at the Last Supper he said,"Take this and eat it for it is my body." He did not say "Eat me" 12. The Virgin Mary is not called "Mary with the Cherry," 13. The recommended grace before a meal is not: Rub-A-Dub-Dub thanks for the grub, yeah God. 14. Next Sunday there will be a taffy pulling contest at St. Peter's, not a Peter-pulling contest at St.Taffy's.
For the Graduates of STA
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 06:05:21 (PDT)

Morning everyone. I'm re-posting a message that I placed over the weekend. I have been researching my family tree and in doing so came across my grandmother through Ellis Island records. On the ships manifest of 1921, it states that she is going to 433 89th Street Woodhaven Long Island. Does anyone have any idea where that would have been back then?
Buster
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 05:32:13 (PDT)

So I had the first post of the morning?
Dave
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 05:31:43 (PDT)

"MUST"....more coffee, please!!!!
whatever
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 05:30:54 (PDT)

whoaa, dave, we muct have bumped each other on the way in....
curious
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 05:30:23 (PDT)

GOOD MORNING! first post in the morning!! not the last one at night--that is what counts!! ahhh, i love a three day weekend, but this tuesday shall be excruciatingly painful.
curious
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 05:29:37 (PDT)

Is curious back yet?
Dave
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 05:28:11 (PDT)

Good Morning !!! Welcome to a new day, Hope every one had a good 3 day weekend..... The party is over, Back to the salt mines.
Night Owl
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 00:33:25 (PDT)

It is getting late...
Anti-Skell
USA - Monday, September 03, 2001 at 23:30:15 (PDT)

Ken Sez --- Ro and I just got back from San Deigo, great stay on the beach, wondering what you are doing Friday night. Would love to see Arlene's photos from NY.
Bob C.
Phx, AZ USA - Monday, September 03, 2001 at 22:49:09 (PDT)

And Lizzie Borden,or was it Elsie the Cow, influenced Sheila...
Anti-Skell
USA - Monday, September 03, 2001 at 17:42:44 (PDT)

Buster - I've been thinkin', if Jamaica Ave was the main drag way back then, and I think it was. It would stand to reason that 400 89th St is probably within 4 blocks north or south of Jamaica Ave. My natural instinct would be to guess north, because that is where most of the action was way back then.
Ken Sez
USA - Monday, September 03, 2001 at 15:11:34 (PDT)

Wiseguy: Can't find your email address. Send me a note.
Buster
USA - Monday, September 03, 2001 at 14:04:21 (PDT)

And Moby Dick influenced the SkellTones...
Sheila
USA - Monday, September 03, 2001 at 13:07:56 (PDT)

This should settle it..The SkellTones influenced Robert Plant...
Anti-Skell
USA - Monday, September 03, 2001 at 12:35:52 (PDT)

Rich - Glad you cleared that up - Most people think I stayed an extra year at Lane 'cause I wasn't all that good of a student. The truth is, I just liked it so much, particularly the cafeteria food, that I just didn't want to leave!!!!! Now the whole world knows the truth. I'm really a smart guy. Boy, glad I got that off my chest, it's been hell keeping that secret all these years.
Ken Sez
USA - Sunday, September 02, 2001 at 07:03:29 (PDT)

Alot of these profiles fit most of the wol'ers that come here.
Which flame warrior are you?
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 22:31:22 (PDT)

jim of mineola.. smitty first came from the poodle lounge on 101 avenue in ozone park. hello mike g long time . last time we saw each other was at vinny finn's keg of beer on the back stairs ,yes? hope all is well with you and the bride. great times at marshall's . i don't even bother to tell people about that place . they would think i was not telling the truth. unreal totally unreal. marge great story about fkl . i don't know how we all got it done. ken sez liked it so much he stayed an extra year...we had it all boys , we had it all.
rich
vero beach, USA - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 21:15:35 (PDT)

Mickster - your absolutely right - Differences of opinion in music I applaud and love to discuss. Didn't mean anything real nasty with "pissin contest" If you took it that way I apologize wholeheartedly, and would love to discuss differences of opinion on music, one of mine being that I don't think Moby Grape, left all that much of a legacy. Didn't mean to step of toes, just wanted to get a little convo going. Ken Sez
ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 10:35:28 (PDT)

By the way theses posts are just from a guy with difference of opinion they do not have to be right, just havin fun, no pissing contests nor are they intended to offend or be vicious.good day all.
Mickster <speedo736@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 09:55:46 (PDT)

STEVEN TYLER of AEROSMITH has been quoted several times as being influenced big time by THE Beatles,yet aside from the 3 covers they did,can you opr anyone honestly say you here The Beatles in their music? Robert Plant was also influenced by ELVIS, do you hear him in KASMIR or In my time of dyin'? Nope did not think so. Other opinions were allowed last i checked.
Mickster
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 09:50:38 (PDT)

Why does everything have to be a pissing contest? Im simply qouting a statement from a Robert Plant interview.But im the idiot for trying again.I would not even be able to name a Moby Grape tune,nor would i recognize their influence.I wont say they influenced The dead cause my head will be bitten off butthey were from SAN FRAN and were one of the first JAM BANDS.
MICKSTER
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 09:45:26 (PDT)

Sites acting weird this morn - swear I didn't post that three times
Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 08:25:23 (PDT)

Buster - somewhere on 89th ST. - Don't mention it glad I could be of service.
Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 08:24:01 (PDT)

Buster - somewhere on 89th ST. - Don't mention it glad I could be of service.
Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 08:23:55 (PDT)

Buster - somewhere on 89th ST. - Don't mention it glad I could be of service.
Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 08:23:47 (PDT)

would have, (sorry... hangover)
Buster
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 07:37:29 (PDT)

I have been researching my family tree and in doing so came across my grandmother through Ellis Island records. On the ships manifest of 1921, it states that she is going to 433 89th Street Woodhaven Long Island. Does anyone have any idea where that wood have been back then?
Buster
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 07:36:42 (PDT)

Moby Grape influenced Robert Plant? - yeah I hear so much Moby Grape in Zep music and lyrics. Don't know how I missed it up till now. Puleez!!!! Guess I must have missed their spot in the R and R hall of fame also. But having said that, I don't want to make this a pissing contest. Music is certainly subjective as it pertains to our tastes, and whatever music you like, you like. There can be no arguing about that, and I would also much prefer to argue music than politics' or religion, because I care more deeply for it than any of the others. So bring it on, I can take it!
Ken Sez
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 00:04:58 (PDT)